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Quote from: 400:D on December 23, 2010, 02:33:11 pmWest side of Northbourne and Northside, Gungahlin is the best area though. The southside is just....just like everything east of northbourne is...
Quote from: Sir Pompously on December 23, 2010, 04:13:51 pmSo the southside has higher housing prices and on average a larger income per person?
QuoteNot really, as compared to the snobby areas such as Red Hill (Which is central),
Quote from: Sir Pompously on December 23, 2010, 05:45:18 pmNot really, as compared to the snobby areas such as Red Hill (Which is central), those houses on the southside are actually in the middle class (unlike those in Central). And what I was saying is that you tried to make a point by saying the south is much like all East of Northbourne, which is actually funny as the east side has a few suburbs in there where housing prices are higher (Upper middle?) and incomes are higher. Also, Gungahlin is just a flat, boring grass plain with a few townhouses stuck in dirt. Unlike the better planned and landscaped older suburbs of Canberra, it is the worst thought out craphole Canberra has to offer.
Quote from: 400:D on December 24, 2010, 07:11:56 amI'm not comparing the east of northbourne to the southside....
QuoteThe southside is just....just like everything east of northbourne is...
Quote from: Sir Pompously on December 24, 2010, 10:35:16 amYou Said:Of course every side has good and bad (Except Gungahlin), however if you are not really into the thread's topic then don't post in it As it is a fun thread, prepare to cop flack (And of course, the truth).
Quote from: 400:D on December 24, 2010, 03:47:59 pmWhere every time I've been down there someone's flipped the bird at me.
Quote from: Buzz Killington on December 24, 2010, 08:43:19 pmLol, love it. Southside pride.
Quote from: Kramden on January 28, 2012, 09:30:07 pmI like your historic perspectives there Smitho. Well informed as usual. Recalling the NCDC brings back fond memories of my early days here when Leylands and Volvos were the order of the ACTION day...and Kingston had a real bus depot!I've been here 35 years now. Lived north to begin with (Spence and Flynn) then down south (Gowrie) when it was newly settled. No Hyperdome or Tugg Interchange in those days. No T depot actually. Roads were all done many years ahead of settlement. Great planning.I liked Tugg when I was there ('81-'94). I moved to Richardson for a while. But when I return these days it (Tugg) seems SO different. I can't put my finger on it but it's a 'vibe' I get when I'm running buses down that way. In fact one of the pleasures I've found in this job is that I get around to most areas. In fact I could could count on one hand the burbs I've not taken a bus through in that time.Upon to returning north in '94 (Florey then Flynn) I found Belco a little more bogan-ish. Sounds rich coming from someone fresh out of Richardson! Perhaps it's that my 'new' local shopping centre was/is Charnwood...er, Stabwood. Or as my adult kids call it: Charmingwood - a great place to be seen in bare feet or perhaps slippers in winter! Seriously, my girls (when they were younger) used to point out how many people they'd spot roaming the centre in their tatty ugg boots or mocasins (sp?) and say straight faced: "Daddy why do people over here wear slippers at the shops?". They were quite rightly appalled even at a tender age. We still have a laugh about it. Of course they're oh-so-sophisticated now at 23 and 25 they wouldn't be seen dead in Charny.And while I'm sticking it to the place I might as well add that a driver colleague had the nasty experience (on Aust Day) of picking up four pissed bogans from Charny who proceded raising hell on his bus and harassing passengers. He's Irish so they had a go at him as well. He wisely called it into base, cops were called, etc, etc...nothing happened. I've had two of the four young offenders on my bus one night. Never again. Ugly Australians. I'll shut the door on them or I won't move the bus. God help some of my Indian colleagues should they happen to have the misfortune of picking up any of these dirt bags.Anyway, to the question Belco v Tugg? I think I'll flip the bird at both and say I'd rather live in Hall. Rural, fairly close to the things I need, by car at least. No bogans!
Quote from: CNG on January 29, 2012, 05:57:20 amGosh the indian drivers are good at their job but they are so damm quiet, I wounder how they get through each day, also was that irish driver the one speaking to ed and you the other day at tuggers?
Quote from: smitho on January 28, 2012, 08:43:51 pmBelconnen's road "system" was built on the cheap (hardly any flyovers, for example) and this shows up in the road accident statistics. The folklore is that NCDC planners all lived on the southside, so Woden Valley got decent roads, but Belconnen missed out. Other reason (I suspect) is because Canberra was growing so fast when Belconnen was being built that they had to economise on roads and just get the most basic facilities provided....also the Fraser Government (1975-83) had no great love for Canberra, and weren't as generous on the funding of ACT infrastructure as when the McMahon/Gorton and Whitlam governments built Woden Valley.
Quote from: Bus 400 on January 30, 2012, 06:43:53 amWhat about the whole length of Adelaide Avenue/Yarra Glen & the Tuggeranong Parkway? They are both access roads to the Woden Valley/Weston Creek that have only flyovers (except the big roundabout). Now Smitho, could some of the planning/money set aside for Belconnen of been used to pay off WW2?
Quote from: ajw373 on January 30, 2012, 05:55:09 amCan you give some examples Smitho? I am racking my brain and cannot think of any flyovers in Woden (except where Hindmarsh goes under the Parkway). If anything I would have said that Belconnen had the better formed roads, with all the major roads built as dual carriageways from the beginning. If the traffic stats are now showing problems in Belconnen I would be putting that down to the urban infill and expansion with road infrastructure that hasn't kept pace with the additional demand, rather than a design fault from day dot.