Network 2023

Started by Barry Drive, October 05, 2022, 10:46:28 AM

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Barry Drive

In conjunction with a temporary Woden Interchange, Chris Steel has announced a new timetable/network will commence from Term 1 2023.

(Full media release here: https://www.cmtedd.act.gov.au/open_government/inform/act_government_media_releases/chris-steel-mla-media-releases/2022/bus-changes-to-support-cit-woden-and-light-rail-works )

Route changes include:
• 31 to loop through Lawson
• better service to Amaroo Shops
• adjustments due to Turner Layover (which presumably means closure of City West station and layover)

Not mentioned in the media release, but included in the budget was making the Whitlam route (47) full time – which I take to mean running a full peak timetable and later than 7pm. But we'll find out once the timetable comes out.

Barry Drive

Timetables, maps and guides have been published on the TC website.

Sylvan Loves Buses

Apart from what looks like Belconnen for once getting the finger up the bum for once with the 40/42/46 thing and a whole hour of R4s in the evening getting cut, I can't see how this is much of a network change. I was expecting a whole lot more...
I'm honestly angry at this point, and my temper will worsen if no printed timetables are published. This network feels like they've completely ignored everyone and only made the effort to work around roadwords, disgusting.

Sylvan Loves Buses

Also, no weekend improvements, fan-f***ing-tastic...

triumph

Had a quick look.
The TT indexing refers a bit to City West, but in the actual TTs it seems City West is replaced by ANU Rimmer St for departures, and ANU Marcus Clark St/Rimmer St for arrivals. (180 and 181 are indexed to City but have always used City West, and will still use the City West replacement stops.)

Whilst it is not clear, I think the present City West stop in Alinga St will now only be used by the National Museum service, AND will it still stop at the former City West layover stop on the way back?

As for Fraser West, the removal of a couple of 1/2hr interval weekday services is hardly going to reduce the 'nuisance' value much as the frequent R2 is still operating from there.

The TT shows some services are not disability compliant!

Barry Drive

Quote from: Barry Drive on October 05, 2022, 10:46:28 AMRoute changes include:
• 31 to loop through Lawson
• better service to Amaroo Shops
• adjustments due to Turner Layover (which presumably means closure of City West station and layover)

Not mentioned in the media release, but included in the budget was making the Whitlam route (47) full time – which I take to mean running a full peak timetable and later than 7pm. But we'll find out once the timetable comes out.
Full list of changes to routes:
• Route R6 - travels via Ainsworth Street
• Route 18 - services Franklin only, does not cross over Flemington Road
• Route 19/20 - travels via Amaroo Shops rather than most of Katherine Ave {provides a connection to Amaroo Shops to all of Amaroo}
• Route 20/21 - covers Well Station Drive previously serviced by Route 18
• Route 31 - services Lawson via Stockman Drive
• Route 40/42 - new loop combining these routes, apart from Florey and Latham {connects Fraser East and Melba to Kippax and Charnwood Shops}
• Route 41 - covers Shakespeare Cres previously serviced by Route 42
• Route 46 - new route which services Florey, Latham and Kippax previously serviced by Route 40.
• Route 57 - does not travel via Ainsworth St
• Route 60/61 - travels via Ainsworth St (Phillip) instead of Launceston/Yamba
• Routes 64 65 70 & 71 - travel via Hindmarsh Drive when leaving Woden
• Routes 63 & 66 - no longer commences from Brierly St
• Routes 72 76 & 77 - travel via Easty St to/from Woden

Other adjustments are all City West departures are moved to Rimmer St.

Route 47 gets some added peak services, but still no services beyond 7pm - 7 days a week.

Just quietly, I would have preferred the 40/42 be adjusted so that the 40 (From Belconnen) travels via Page and Scullin then Kippax with the 42 using Southern Cross Drive then Kingsford Smith Drive. Would have re-connected Page and Scullin to Kippax without adding significant running time. Also disappointed they didn't put the Macrossan Cres loop back into the Route 46 since it no longer travels further than Kippax.

Quote from: triumph on December 12, 2022, 11:49:18 PMWhilst it is not clear, I think the present City West stop in Alinga St will now only be used by the National Museum service, AND will it still stop at the former City West layover stop on the way back?
This does appear to be the case.

There is no information about the fate of City West. I was under the impression it was going to become a construction compound for Light Rail Stage 2A, but there seems to be one set up further down Marcus Clarke St near Theatre 3.

Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on December 12, 2022, 08:55:02 PMI was expecting a whole lot more...

I'm honestly angry at this point, and my temper will worsen if no printed timetables are published.
If you follow the pattern of network changes, this was pretty much as expected – minor route changes with some timetable cuts. And so far, no mention of printed timetables, but there might be a route map coming.

Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on December 12, 2022, 08:56:16 PMAlso, no weekend improvements, fan-f***ing-tastic...
Weekend route changes match weekdays, so that counts as improvements. They actually could have adjusted the weekend timetables further, but for some routes there are better frequencies on weekends at night than during the week.

743

Route 902 on weekends now runs full length to Hume, also.

Bus 400

Whilst probably not a big deal. But with the Harrison/Franklin buses changing. Crace, Palmerston & Franklin students have lost a bus service to their local high school, Harrison School. With a kilometre walk from Cultivation Street or take the light rail for 1 stop. 

Pity about the top stop at Woden going. Always good when you could race the bus from the Interchange & win. Let's hope the right turn from Callam Street onto westbound Hindmarsh Drive has improved in recent times. 

triumph

Under the current Network TT the buses around Vernon Circle are diverted from the published network routes. The mapping for the 1st term 2023 TT shows Vernon Circle as the route for relevant services, thus from the 30th January buses are on the 'published' route and thus will no longer be 'diverting'. A finnicky point. (A fairly recent similar case was the disappearance of Hospital Road from the published R6 and 902 routes.)

Sylvan Loves Buses

In preperation of TC being the lazy buggers they've been the last couple of networks (aka the PUBLIC bus DISservice...) when it comes to printed timetables for the people who need them, and no the books are just a horrible inconvinience, I've started working on my own timetables using a template of a timetable from over 20 years ago. Just spent the last 12 hours doing it up and have 1 timetable so far ready for the final touches I have planned for when the network starts. If you want one too, let me know, they've very glamorous.

Stan butler

Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on January 13, 2023, 11:15:04 AMIn preperation of TC being the lazy buggers they've been the last couple of networks (aka the PUBLIC bus DISservice...) when it comes to printed timetables for the people who need them, and no the books are just a horrible inconvinience, I've started working on my own timetables using a template of a timetable from over 20 years ago. Just spent the last 12 hours doing it up and have 1 timetable so far ready for the final touches I have planned for when the network starts. If you want one too, let me know, they've very glamorous.

Some people have too much time on their hands......😀

Sylvan Loves Buses

Tends to happen when one develops a sleeping problem and has nothing much else to do at 4 in the morning.