Started by Bus 400, January 04, 2011, 10:19:05 PM
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QuoteBus driver pay 'already covers weekend work'Updated 11 hours 52 minutes agoUnions say ACTION bus drivers are being asked to work a total of 200 hours overtime a day. (ABC News: Clarissa Thorpe)Pay negotiations between Canberra bus drivers and the ACT Government have hit a new hurdle.The Transport Workers Union (TWU) wants ACTION drivers who work weekends to be paid a 15 per cent loading for their entire five day shift.Chief Minister Jon Stanhope says drivers' wages already include payments for weekend work."We've already negotiated a composite rate," he said."We've already incorporated into that $30 an hour rate that we pay bus drivers, an allowance for the fact that they will work or will be required from time to time to work on weekends. That's the current agreement."Mr Stanhope says the union is not willing to compromise or negotiate."It seems unreasonable when we say let's move to a seven day shift and for the union, on behalf of the drivers, to come back and say we're not prepared to talk about a seven day shift without essentially a pay rise of 15 per cent across the board," he said."That's just completely unreasonable and doesn't take into account that we're already paying a composite rate."TWU spokesman Klaus Pinkas says the composite rate does not include penalties for working weekends."If they already get paid a penalty for shifts that include weekend work, why aren't they working it now? We've been to the commission over this over many years and the Commissioner says 'no you don't'."So quite obviously the composite rate does not include a weekend shift penalty."What it does include is if you volunteer to work weekends then you get the composite rate, the same rate as if you work during the week."Mr Pinkas says chronic staff shortages are the underlying problem.He says drivers are being asked to work a total of 200 hours of overtime a day."The guys are working that much extra work during the week, that they do not want to work 60 or 70 hours a week or they run up against fatigue laws where they cannot work on the weekends," he said."That is the fundamental issue at ACTION, is that they are understaffed."That is an issue that they've been trying to address recently, recruiting. But when they brought out this new bus network in November, they were 29 drivers short on it. They hadn't done the maths on it."Mr Pinkas says ACTION has been chronically understaffed since Territory and Municipal Services regained control of the bus service.
Quote from: Bus 400 on January 06, 2011, 12:04:59 AMI still don't get why Canberra needs a 7 day timetable. The only really popular route is the 900 between Woden & Belconnen. Otherwise the patronage doesn't warrant it.
Quote from: Bus 400 on January 06, 2011, 12:04:59 AMThe best you could do is maybe a few tweaks to the weekend network such as a 950 Red Rapid from City to Gungahlin only (with a possible extension to Belconnen & the 956 merging with the 951/952-Passengers would transfer at Gungahlin for the 950) & possibly shortening routes like the 905 (it is a very long trip for Dunlop residents) & shortening/lengthening other routes. But a full scale network would be like what the modified Christmas week timetable was, with the 300 packed & suburban runs mostly transporting air.
Quote from: Bus 400 on January 06, 2011, 12:04:59 AMWith the small weekend network, a weekend shift once every 2 to 3 weeks could be worked into each shift, but if the driver was unable to conduct those duties, they could then be able to find another driver who wished to help out. Failing that they would have to work that shift.
Quote from: Bus 400 on January 06, 2011, 12:04:59 AMA pay structure could be worked out with a set hours of 40 a week. The next 8 could be at double time & the rest at time & a half. I am unsure how the ACTION pay is worked out, but that is how my work does it & it seems easy enough.
Quote from: MyWay on January 06, 2011, 01:36:48 PMThe fact that "(the) $30 an hour rate that we pay bus drivers (includes) an allowance for the fact that they will work or will be required from time to time to work on weekends" doesn't matter. That's the current agreement. If he wants a new agreement which includes rostered (or forced) weekend work, then that becomes a new agreement - all conditions of the current agreement have to be re-negotiated and agreed to afresh.
Quote from: ajw373 on January 06, 2011, 06:28:13 PMTrue it is a new agreement. However, to negotiate a new agreement you need entitlements to negotiate with. If you that was negotiated away last time in return for a higher rate, then it is very rich to ask for the same thing a second time. Know I will get flamed, but trying to keep sensible neutral hat on, which is something usually lost in debates such as this.
Quote from: ajw373 on January 07, 2011, 01:01:16 AMAs I understand it though that it the crux of the argument. On the one hand the government is saying all weekend penalties were negotiated away last time and the unions saying it was overtime penalties rates (if I read what your [sic] saying correctly).
Quote from: ajw373 on January 06, 2011, 05:55:35 AMIt has nothing what so ever to do with a 7 day TIMETABLE, but rostering on a 7 day working week.