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Fleet / Re: 26 Scanias: 2022-24

Last post by triumph - Today at 12:15:05 AM

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3: The whole situation regarding BusTech's administration and future still isn't fully certain, They also constantly failed to keep to the delivery schedule throughout this order. I personally think it would be more simple to just end the contract early and focus on something else instead (like more electric buses or light rail for example)

While this complicates matters and may cause further delays, the contract for supply of buses remains active.

BusTech are suppliers to Scania, but are not a party to the contract. The ACT Government can choose to end the contract early (at 13 buses), since Scania has failed to deliver on time. If the Government wants to continue with the order, Scania may need to find an acceptable alternative body supplier.
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As has already been made clear, the contract is with Scania not Bustech.

Whilst, as has been pointed out, Scania in theory has options, but it has previously also been pointed out that the state of the bus building industry locally was such that swapping suppliers would not help. The distinction with the Yutongs seems to be that body and chassis are by the one supplier and not reliant on local industry. Your speculation that the Scanias could be cancelled in favour of Yutongs may turn out to be right.

The caveat is that cancelling contracts already in progress can be quite difficult and with great potential for dispute.   

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The Playground / Re: What PT did you get today?...

Last post by triumph - Yesterday at 11:50:08 PM

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Fleet / Re: 26 Scanias: 2022-24

Last post by Snorzac - Yesterday at 09:48:45 PM

You have to look at the bigger picture, ie. total numbers....yes the leased bustechs were to replace the Renaults which are now fully retired, however the Yutong order is numbered to replace the Scania gas and Irisbus, if you didn't take on the remaining Scania or suitable diesel replacement you would need to extend the Yutong order, that may then run you into charging capacity issues 

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Fleet / Re: 26 Scanias: 2022-24

Last post by L94UBbusfan - Yesterday at 07:47:03 PM

With all this talk about the future of BusTech, I am really starting to question whether TC actually needs the remaining 13 Scania's. Some points of interest include...

1: The 26 Scania's were primarily ordered to replace the remaining Renaults, and since all Renaults have now been withdrawn, it means these buses would effectively be "extra" and perhaps unnecessary buses.

2: Yutongs are now arriving at a very steady pace, and there are still enough buses on order to enable fleet growth while also withdrawing all L94s and Irisbuses (the Yutongs are also zero emissions buses while the BusTech's aren't)

3: The whole situation regarding BusTech's administration and future still isn't fully certain, They also constantly failed to keep to the delivery schedule throughout this order. I personally think it would be more simple to just end the contract early and focus on something else instead (like more electric buses or light rail for example)

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Canberra Metro / Re: Five New Trams

Last post by Barry Drive - Yesterday at 10:41:32 AM

• Höegh Sydney arrived at Fremantle yesterday morning, and should arrive Port Kembla maybe Tuesday 27th

^^ the shipping schedule which I was referring to was incorrect: Sydney did not travel onto Port Kembla - it instead headed north to Singapore.

The next ship likely to arrive is Höegh St Petersburg. It should arrive Port Kembla approx 23 September. If it is carrying a tram, it will confirm which one is still delayed (even though it's fairly certain that 016 was on board Höegh London).

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The Playground / Re: What PT did you get today?...

Last post by triumph - September 11, 2024, 09:23:36 PM

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General Discussion / Buses in Media

Last post by Cutepattern1098 - September 11, 2024, 06:19:11 AM

So I thought I should start a new thread on this topic. So recently a TV show called "Austin" was shot in Canberra is being shown. There happens to be a TC bus in the trailer (0:07). The Bus is 639, though I note actor playing in the driver isn't wearing a TC uniform.

https://youtu.be/R3WNJKKGzwc?si=vUiR5C6SyIUeqaM-

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Canberra Metro / Re: Five New Trams

Last post by triumph - September 10, 2024, 10:31:44 PM

Minister for Making Announcements Chris announced first set is on Höegh London.
With a photo of Set 16.

A quick Google search revealed this....

https://www.algoafm.co.za/local/massive-damage-caused-to-car-carrier-berthed-at-port-of-port-elizabeth

Doesn't say the name of the ship or even the company but could shed some light on it

Assuming the Minister is accurately quoted, where is LRV 16 now?
The dates for the event in Port Elizabeth tally well. So the rhetorical questions are:
- Was the Minister/report incorrect - ship name, LRV number? If correct, then LRV 16 was shipped on Hoegh London.
- Was it a damaged item off-loaded in Port Elizabeth? And will it need to go back to CAF for repair/replacement?
- Was it transferred to another Hoegh vessel and actually a different fleet number? And now delivered?
- Is it still aboard Hoegh London and due to damage, inaccessible for off-loading when the ship docked at Port Kembla?
- Was it off-loaded in Port Kembla and still stored there?
- Is it here, but delivery not yet reported?
- Something else?


Unless someone has definite information ... above remains rhetorical. Time will tell.

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Canberra Metro / Re: Five New Trams

Last post by triumph - September 10, 2024, 10:02:53 PM

A few questions. How does the "wire free" system on the new trams work? Is it like Newcastle's or is it different? Will the trams be identical to the current trams in service or will they be slightly different? Also why would they order the new trams so early before stage 2A is complete?

At a technical meeting I attended I was informed that the ACT LRVs will have batteries for traction energy storage. Supercapacitors will not be used for this purpose.
This contrasts with Newcastle NSW where supercapacitors are used.

There are many pros and cons to be considered in selecting which one or both (in a 'hybrid' traction energy storage system) to use. Mr Google has plenty of articles.

Batteries store energy using electrochemical processes, whilst supercapacitors store energy electrostatically. For a more detailed technical explanation of battery and supercapacitor science, try:
https://www.eaton.com/content/dam/eaton/products/electronic-components/resources/brochure/eaton-supercapacitor-vs-batteries-white-paper-elx1150-en.pdf

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The Playground / Re: What PT did you get today?...

Last post by triumph - September 10, 2024, 07:14:05 PM

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