Network 2010

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Buzz Killington

Timetables are out 1 November.

King of Buses


Bus 400

#52


Quote from: MyWay on September 21, 2010, 12:13:23 AM
3: Intertown (to Belconnen) -- rumours are that bus bay will be extended

Work has begun to extend platform 3 @ City Interchange.

Barry Drive

Picked up the Network 10 brochure today. In addition to expected changes, "Intertown" routes will be renamed "Blue Rapid"; Green Line and Gold Line nomenclature will be used for the common parts of routes 4 & 5 and 2 & 3 respectively.
All(?) Interchanges will be renamed Bus Stations.

Sir Pompously

#54
Well Tuggeranong is set, already has Bus Station on all the older signage. Blue platform numbers on Platform 1 have popped up at 'Belconnen Community Centre' in line with "Blue Rapid".

lukeo25

#55
Any mention of weekend services? Or not? I hope a better weekend network comes with the new network!

Barry Drive

#56
Quote from: lukeo25 on October 30, 2010, 02:30:08 PM
Any mention of weekend services? Or not? I hope a better weekend network comes with the new network!
Only that there will be weekend changes and to pick up a new weekend bus book.

Buzz Killington

I really wish they'd issue a weekday bus book..

lukeo25

I wish there was a bus book for monday to friday services, like back in the past it would make life easier

Bus 400

Has the word of a bus driver about the 319 skipping Bonython in Network 2010 been confirmed yet?

Barry Drive

19/319 will still service Bonython, but the route is rumoured to change.

lukeo25

no new timetables online yet :(

Barry Drive

#62
They are now available. http://www.action.act.gov.au/Routes_101001/index.htm

According to the timetables I've viewed:
Route 19/319 and 58 remain unchanged (which means the stops at Well Station Dr/Flemington Road will not be serviced during off peak).

Route 2 has been re-directed via London Circuit East and travels to/from Canberra Centre using Cooyong St (good luck staying on time during peak).

Route 59 has finally been re-directed through Mulligans Flat & Jessie St.

Route 3 will become a full easy access route again (apart from the 2 early morning trips).

Some timetable maps still show "Lathlain St Bus Station" instead of Westfield Bus Station.

Platform 2 at City Bus Station will be the old platform 1.

smitho

Hard copy timetables were being put out for public collection at the Civic bus information centre when I passed through Bailey's Arcade at around 0845 this morning.

There is also a large foldout Guide to the main changes involved in Network 2010; didn't see a new network map or the Weekend Bus Book but I guiess they were yet to be unpacked.

New terms:

Red Rapid = extended Redex/Route 200,
Blue Rapid = Intertown,
Gold Line = Routes 2 & 3 (ANU/Civic-Parliament-Deakin),
Green Line = Routes 4 & 5 (Civic-Russell-Parliamentary Zone-Kingston)

Buzz Killington

Interesting (and good) that you can now get maps for school services on the ACTION site.

Bus 400

#65
The new Weekend book & network map were available by asking the information person.



Bus 400

The brochure about the Network 2010 updates is being sent out to homes in the junk mail, with my street receiving their copy tonight.

smitho

Quote from: Bus 400 on November 01, 2010, 05:04:58 PM
The new Weekend book & network map were available by asking the information person.
Yeah, he was pretty helpful but was still unpacking stuff when I was there ...

Buzz Killington

All route listings on ACT Bus have been updated, with school buses being progressively updated this week.

Busnerd

Quote from: Bus 400 on November 01, 2010, 05:04:58 PM
The new Weekend book & network map were available by asking the information person.



I didn't ask, I picked up a new map and a weekend bus book from the abundant supplies available

CNG

looking at the new network on the action website it was great to see that all 70's series runs are now easy access allocated.

The Love Guru

Good to see they have altered the 59 through Forde, MyWay and I will be familiar with the new route.

Barry Drive

Just noticed that 80 & 780 will be moving to City platform 9. Also 934 (south) will move to 2, but 932 is staying on 9.

Irisbus Rider

On closer inspection of the new network, it appears as though there are more additional services than ACTION have advertised.

There are four additional 300 services, two in the am;
300: 7.05a - 7.19a Woden Bus Station - City Bus Station
300: 8.17a - 8.43a Belconnen Bus Stations - City Bus Station
And two in the pm;
300: 5.16p - 5.44p City Bus Station - Belconnen Bus Stations
300: 5.21p - 5.49p City Bus Station - Belconnen Bus Stations

One more service for the 2;
2: 3.12p - 3.39p Dickson Shops - City Bus Station (School days only)

And one for the 5;
5: 6.50a - 7.39a City Bus Station - Woden Bus Station

That is all I could find, but I only have a handful of timetables, any more, feel free to add them. Note: Do not add routes with amended times, as they are numerous.

A few notes from my observations;
- More time has been timetabled between the last timing point, and the new Belconnen Bus Stations in some routes, i.e. Gungahlin routes and the Intertown.
E.g. The last northbound 300 leaves the City at 11.54p in both timetables, but;
Old timetable: Arrives at CSBS (Cohen St Bus Station) at 12.16a
New timetable: Arrives at CSBS at 12.21a

- If you wish to travel from the city to Gungahlin at night, expect a wait, as the connection times for the 50 are pathetic, with wating times at Gungahlin Marketplace ranging from 17 to 22 minutes.
However, travelling into the City from the Gungahlin suburbs on the 50 is much more reasonable, with connection times from 2 to 3 minutes.

-Finally, the 4 and 5 (routes which make up the 'Green Line') have been spread out in the pm off peak, making bus travel more reasonable in those areas at night.

That's all I noticed.....

Bus 400

Did anyone else notice the Parliamentary Triangle bus booklet on the ACTION website?

For those that haven't it is quite good & can only be found on the ACTION page explaining Network 10.

Barry Drive

Quote from: Bus 400 on November 06, 2010, 09:00:03 AM
Did anyone else notice the Parliamentary Triangle bus booklet on the ACTION website?

For those that haven't it is quite good & can only be found on the ACTION page explaining Network 10.
A single timetable showing all routes in one go would be FAR better than that brochure. The best way to encourage bus travel (or at the very least be seen to be encouraging bus travel) is to demonstrate that there are frequent, simple services. This brochure makes it more complicated than it needs to be.

Irisbus Rider

A few additional services, and if anyone feels that I've missed anything, feel free to add to the thread;

One additional service for the 14/314;
14: 7.45p - 8.15p Fraser West Terminus - Belconnen Bus Stations (This is due to an alteration of pm off-peak running times)
And an amendment, the 14 which commences at Radford College at 3.40p is not listed to service the Belconnen Bus Stations, travelling to the first timing point directly. This may be an error, but this is unlikely, as a 314 service travels through the bus stations just minutes prior.

And two additional services for the 15/315;
15: 6.56p - 7.24p Spence Terminus - Belconnen Bus Stations
15: 7.28p - 7.56p Belconnen Bus Stations - Spence Terminus (these serices also due to alterations of the pm off-peak times)

These alterations are due to a restructure of the off peak times for the 12 - 15, which has resulted in the 12 and the 13 both leaving at .34p past the hour, and the 14 and 15 leaving at .04p past the hour, providing Spence and Fraser West terminus' each a 30 min frequency. It is also supporting the increasingly adopted attitude of 'safety in numbers' at transport hubs at night time. I definately think this is a move in the right direction, and should be implemented across the board if possible.
However, there is an anomoly, where the last 12 departs at 11.34p, but the last 13 departs at 10.34p.

As I earlier mentioned, if there are any more additional services (not time amendments, but actual additional services), share them with us.

Barry Drive

#77
Routes 19 & 66 ARE being swapped through Bonython, the timetable maps were not updated.

Also, City platforms 3 & 5 will swap locations until the work to extend platform 3 is complete. Which means Belconnen-bound 300s will continue to depart from the same location.

Bus 400

Yesterday I noticed posters at Cameron Avenue & Lathlain Street Bus Stations about them being closed from Monday 15 November. No mention of where the alternative stop is

Snorzac

There is alternative locations there

Bus 400

The Green & Gold services (2,3,4 & 5) also receive special coloured bollard headers.

I am wondering if all the stops would be programmed into the euro & steer tag buses screens for Network 10? I ask as the stops have been programmed for the MyWay so why not?

CNG

I noticed a number of the gasies were off service today to have desto updates.

Bus 400

This evening the Red Rapid timetables were being replaced, the updated version describes where the 200 goes a bit better.

Here are the different style of bollard headers as a part of Network 10:






Sir

Those bollards look really good. Kinda noob friendly.

Bus 400

Quote from: MyWay on November 10, 2010, 06:18:46 PM
Routes 19 & 66 ARE being swapped through Bonython, the timetable maps were not updated.
Also, City platforms 3 & 5 will swap locations until the work to extend platform 3 is complete. Which means Belconnen-bound 300s will continue to depart from the same location.

There are notices on the affected stops informing passengers about route change. All I read on the signs were about route changes in Bonython, I didn't feel safe to get out of my locked car & read the signs fully.

But the City Platform changes are going to confuse passengers a lot, with the notice boards informing passenger that the southbound 2 & 3 depart from across the road & Platform 3 will become Platform 5 & Dickson bound 2 will depart from here for now & Platform 5 becomes Platform 3. But once the work is done the Platform 3 & 5 will move back to their proper location & the services will follow.

743

Quote from: Irisbus Rider on November 07, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
As I earlier mentioned, if there are any more additional services (not time amendments, but actual additional services), share them with us.

This is kind of additional service for people travelling City - Deakin - Yarralumla - Curtin - Woden. The timetable that finishes today for Route 2 includes two services from Dickson at 8.19am and 8.49am that terminate in the City. However in the new schedule, these services (while departing from Dickson at revised times) are extended to Woden. Probably something to do with the Gold Line. The only Route 2 services now terminating in the City from Dickson are the new 3.12pm school days only service and existing 11.26pm service.

CNG

just interested if tommorow, tuggeranong depot will have any of its stds on services because of desto updates

Bus 400

More then likely the buses on Saturday detail (Tuggeranong & Belconnen) may of already received a desto update or will receive it on Sunday. The buses on Sunday detail (both depot's again) will more then likely already have the desto update or receive it tomorrow or Monday morning. From what I've been told most buses it is a 5 minute download job, with only the MkII's & PR3's taking longer.

Snorzac

Ed reports there are two employees going through the Tuggeranong sheds updating destos now.

Irisbus Rider

Quote from: 743 on November 12, 2010, 09:58:27 PM
This is kind of additional service for people travelling City - Deakin - Yarralumla - Curtin - Woden. The timetable that finishes today for Route 2 includes two services from Dickson at 8.19am and 8.49am that terminate in the City. However in the new schedule, these services (while departing from Dickson at revised times) are extended to Woden. Probably something to do with the Gold Line. The only Route 2 services now terminating in the City from Dickson are the new 3.12pm school days only service and existing 11.26pm service.
Ah ha, and I know how I missed those as well, by just holding new and old timetable and comparing the number of services. Thanks for the info there.

I'm very impressed to see the new signage and information at bollards. Simplicity is the key to absorbing information 'rapidly', so hopefully the commuters will take this on board, and stop asking silly questions everytime they board a bus (wishful thinking, yeah, I know).

Bus 400

The scrolling feature on the desto's is being more widely used on most desto's. The desto's that can't scroll just show each destination & via suburbs/locations.

Busnerd

Since i'm 'out of town' has ACTION installed any special Blue Rapid bus stop signs? I noticed when i was down that the platform number at the ABS bus station is blue for the intertown stop and all the others are orange, so one can only hope they get funky blue bollards :P


400:D


CNG

I like the signs aswell however I wish they kept the name intertown instead of blue rapid.

400:D

Quote from: CNG on November 14, 2010, 07:11:51 AM
I like the signs aswell however I wish they kept the name intertown instead of blue rapid.

I think the new name makes it easier as you have the colours representing different routes etc, and intertown just doesn't roll of the tongue that well.

In-ter-town
Blue Rap-id

The syllables don't lie :D

400:D

Double post!

With the new network can someone please tell me why from Northbourne Avenue to GMP through Fleminton Road no deviations, I can catch the 51, 52, 59, 200 and with deviations, 51,52,56,57,58,59,200? :-\

smitho

Quote from: 400:D on November 14, 2010, 12:00:46 PM
I think the new name makes it easier as you have the colours representing different routes etc, and intertown just doesn't roll of the tongue that well.

In-ter-town
Blue Rap-id

The syllables don't lie :D
I guess it's a bit of a trade-off between a name which is functional ("intertown" describes the function of the service) as against a name which is more on the descriptive side ("rapid"). The term "Redex" seemed to attract comment because it was neither functional nor descriptive, (but I guess it had some logic as it was initially only a trial service, and so for the wrinklies at least, recalled the days of the Redex Trials in the 1950s).

The Rapid logo looks as if it was created by the same graphic designer as the old Redex logo.

400:D

Quote from: smitho on November 14, 2010, 08:33:57 PM
The Rapid logo looks as if it was created by the same graphic designer as the old Redex logo.

I totally agree

Barry Drive

Quote from: 400:D on November 14, 2010, 08:20:31 PM
With the new network can someone please tell me why from Northbourne Avenue to GMP through Fleminton (sic) Road no deviations, I can catch the 51, 52, 59, 200 and with deviations, 51,52,56,57,58,59,200? :-\
What??