Started by Barry Drive, March 23, 2012, 11:22:10 AM
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Quote from: ajw373 on September 27, 2014, 12:01:52 PMDo you seriously think the average passenger is going to be sitting there on their phone consulting Nextbus? Assuming of course they even know the stop nber to extract the info?Oh for what it is worth I did a non interchange change the other day. Was going from Campbell Park offices to the city so only through searching the stupid action website did I realise I could get the Woden bus and change at Russell. Oh the only thing in question is where did the Woden bus go its not like the stops have any info.
Quote from: smitho on September 25, 2014, 11:27:03 PMConnections hub: An adventurous lady passenger made an interesting connection recently at the North Weston & Molonglo Park and Ride northbound stop.....from the city-bound 725 Xpresso to the Belconnen bound Xpresso ex-Tuggeranong. Good effort.
Quote from: ajw373 on September 27, 2014, 09:05:58 PM... people who are very very cleaver and know their shit inside out (like US on here) write guides, or make decisions, without writing to their target audience.
Quote from: Bus 400 on September 27, 2014, 09:12:14 PMAlso, the Woden bus goes to Woden...... Seriously though, if you've managed to make it to the ACTION website, you could of seen the map.
Quote from: ajw373 on September 27, 2014, 09:42:33 PMOh and at Russell again going off just the very basic info at the stop I saw I could get a 251 to Belconnen. Of course being someone on HERE I new that meant via Gungahlin, but the average punter or irregular user would have no idea what so ever that it would be the worst possible way to get to Belconnen.
Quote from: ajw373 on September 27, 2014, 09:42:33 PMSomeone else mentioned something similar above, but the basic timetable also showed a service at 4:25 which of course was actually the same bus as the 4:40 service but heading to Majura Park first.
Quote from: 743 on September 28, 2014, 03:09:04 PMThe Russell stop should have a "Red Rapid" header installed in the top case on the bollard. This shows the suburbs traversed to Belconnen and also includes a stick map of the Red Rapid as far as Gungahlin. While the automated HASTUS information only shows the final destination, as you say, the header includes enough information for people to know it's not a direct service. Or was the header not installed?Pitfalls of HASTUS automation, as I mentioned earlier. Agreed, this is poor, especially when there's no supplementary header involved.
Quote from: ajw373 on September 29, 2014, 11:00:43 AMYeah but if you look at the bus stop timetable there is nothing what so ever to show the 251 is a Red Rapid. Again it is assumed people know what Red Rapid is and from the stop info knows that a 251 is a Red Rapid.
Quote from: ajw373 on September 29, 2014, 11:00:43 AMAgain gets back to my point about the info being provided is obviously done by someone who doesn't know how the basic demoniator thinks, and instead assumes everyone knows the timetable and route structure inside out like they do. Once upon a time that would have been me, but to be honest when they went to the single and double digit route numbers and through running I would not have a clue of what goes where.
Quote from: 743 on September 29, 2014, 03:04:37 PMIn this case, there is a header installed which clearly states the 251 is a Red Rapid, and exactly what Red Rapid means (including the stick map, as mentioned previously). As far as I know, all (and if not all, then most) Red Rapid stops have a bollard, and therefore a header. Same for the Blue Rapid. Where this information exists, then there's no reason to just rely on the HASTUS export - the extra information is there, just above it, to be used.
Quote from: 743 on September 29, 2014, 03:04:37 PMI agree that suburban stops that only show a HASTUS display can be very vague at times.There is something to be said though about planning your journey beforehand. I'm not saying you specifically, just in general. Sure, there are reasons for spontaneous travel, but I would say in most cases, people know they have to catch a bus to a certain destination. There's Transit for Google Maps, independent apps (which will be even better once NXTBUS is integrated), the network maps and PDF timetables on the ACTION website, the phone line, and printed timetables (although the availability of those could be vastly improved). If someone just turns up at a stop and hopes a bus will come along, or they're not sure where the routes go, then some of the responsibility must lie with them for that decision. I believe a suburban bus stop timetable is there for reassurance, not total trip planning. Bus Stations, on the other hand, need to be more comprehensive.
Quote from: King of Buses on September 30, 2014, 09:31:15 PMOh and, those stops on Queen Victoria Terrace still have old blades...as someone said, I doubt they're being serviced.
Quote from: 743 on October 10, 2014, 01:58:53 PMStops 2241 and 2242 are shown on NXTBUS - so they are designated stops.
Quote from: smitho on October 14, 2014, 10:46:28 PMNoticed the other day that the DHS (formerly Centrelink) Nxtbus bus stop blade on Athllon Drive, Greenway, is numbered simply "9"....not aware of any other single digit bus stop numbers like this one.Can anyone explain?
Quote from: King of Buses on October 15, 2014, 08:43:48 AMThere is 2 and 3 on Athllon Dr at Learmonth Dr too.Those are the only ones that are single digit that I know of, some two digit ones too (32 at the Arboretum and two others there too) and then they go up to 9999 which is at Senior Boys Grammar in Red Hill (and its just in front of a normal stop on the 4. Why not just have one long stop...)
Quote from: Skitube on October 15, 2014, 01:32:11 PMthe three stops in arboretum are not 31-33, but 0031-0033, and if you don't put in the two 0s at the front, you won't get any result
Quote from: 743 on October 14, 2014, 11:51:51 AMSome temporary changes from the ACTION homepage Service Updates tab:Route 57 no longer diverting via Bimberi Youth Justice Centre due to roadworksRoute 982 no longer in operation after this weekend (I assume it will return once the roadworks are completeI drove down Morisset Rd last weekend, and the number of potholes was absolutely insane - hopefully this is what will be fixed!
Quote from: ... on October 16, 2014, 07:06:26 AMThe way I read it is that they are discontinuing route 982
Quote from: Skitube on October 25, 2014, 06:31:49 PMjust like the 88 and 988 rarely get any patronage from AMC. i doubt the 88 gets anything from hume either
Quote from: ... on October 25, 2014, 06:48:58 PMand chisholm too, as 65, 66, & 67 are all much faster to go to Woden with
Quote from: Skitube on October 25, 2014, 09:29:15 PMof course you don't expect to see pax getting on the 88 to travel from chisholm to woden, unless common sense didn't prevail, or just a bus nut getting onboard.88 goes to chicholm purely for the purpose of having an extra connection point
Quote from: 743 on November 01, 2014, 09:32:56 PM.... I've noticed that stops in the AIS and Crace no longer serviced have had the blades removed, but the posts left in situ.
Quote from: Bus 400 on November 01, 2014, 10:32:28 PMOut of curiosity, were the blades in Crace in the weeks after September 1? As it has been noticed that the same stop numbers for the stops on the other side of Jellico Street.
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on October 16, 2014, 07:06:26 AMThe way I read it is that they are discontinuing route 982
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on February 25, 2015, 06:36:33 PMThis morning, I was running late to school and the 57 came to plt 8 (City Bus Stn), and began loading up. 30seconds later, another 57 northbound followed. That driver was clearly confused as to why there was another one of him, and pulled up next to the first 57 to find out. From what I overheard, the first driver said something along the lines of "the usual driver of the 57 is always very late, so they had had him run a second 57 at the right time, so there are always 2 buses running that service". I was like Whoa, since when did ACTION care about late buses, let alone supply a second bus to run on time with the late one still following. There are so many other services which could benefit from a additional run rather then wasting a bus to make sure a service runs on time.
Quote from: King of Buses on February 25, 2015, 07:21:06 PMWhat?