Started by Sylvan Loves Buses, December 09, 2017, 05:39:25 AM
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Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on December 09, 2017, 05:39:25 AMI have a basic understanding of how trams work and know that the turning radius is rather limited due to the concertina and carriages length compared to articulated buses. There's that, but from what all the signs say I've worked out at the busiest time there's going to be at least 4-6 active lightrail services running at the same time up and down Northbourne/Flemington, but from what I've seen, it looks as though there are two tracks (excluding whatever is being used to with the depot) and only the signs of the trams using the two tracks meaning they use the same track but in the opposite direction after each terminus like where it use to at Lilyfield in Sydney. ([EDIT] although that's apparently changed to Dulwich Hill since I was last there). So unless there's a loop like at Central Station or something plus the use of Vernon Circle, I don't quite get how this could work. Can someone please explain this for me. Possibly with pictures and photos even
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on December 09, 2017, 01:26:16 PM...there's a lane switch just after each starting point.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 02, 2018, 01:45:01 PMJust read the TC E-news email, with the confirmation of My Way being used for both buses and trams with tag on/off machines at the stations. The one thing I'm still wondering though is will the light rail be cashless, do any of you know?
QuoteThe MyWay (tag on – tag off) system, currently used on buses, will be installed on platforms at all light rail stops.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 03, 2018, 02:47:09 PMYes, makes sense. It also said...Which makes me think, wouldn't it be better to have the My Way machines in the actual trams at each door like they did on the Melbourne trams? That way it would prevent people from cheating, tagging on at the wrong time or forgetting when they get off, unless the system makes the My Way machines switch from red to green when the trams pass some sort of detection point. Any ideas for that?
Quote from: Busnerd on November 15, 2018, 02:29:44 PMFor those who have somehow avoided social media today, LRV007 was towed to Dickson last night, as posted by CBR Metro and annoyingly re-shared by one PTCBR related individual with an excessive need to use emoji's.It is understood gauge testing will take place over the next two nights between Dickson and Alinga (assuming the track is free of crap/debris/tools/holes) by then. This should see the LRV being dragged by the Unimog with the large foam 'collar'/thing around the outside to test clearances on the line, presumably before they do final platform concreting, set the poles in place along the alignment etc.
Quote from: Busnerd on December 04, 2018, 06:35:42 AMCorrect, it was placed there to get local residents/motorists ready to see LRV's in the area, it won't be moving anytime soon, it's just trying to show how far along they in the project that they could get it there.
Quote from: Busnerd on February 27, 2019, 09:34:14 AMAlthough personally I would've preferred they named the stop Civic or City Interchange or something.
Quote from: Toyota Camry on March 03, 2019, 08:09:05 AMThe stop should be named as the City Tram Station; this is in line with the adjacent City Bus Station.`
QuoteThe best option is to fit boom gates to the crossings
Quote from: ajw373 on March 09, 2019, 09:23:08 AMBut really people are bloody stupid. How you can miss a big red tram is beyond me.
Quote from: triumph on March 18, 2019, 10:59:02 PMTerminology.Light Rail or Tram? Both terms are being used for the same thing and it is bugging me.Unfortunately, many commentators are attempting to belittle the system here in Canberra by calling it a 'tram', so despite the convenience of the word tram, perhaps Light Rail and LRV are more appropriate for this Forum.
QuoteTerminology.Light Rail or Tram?What I do think is that this forum needs to decide whether to refer to the infrastructure as a Light Rail or Tram system; and the vehicles as Light Rail Vehicles or Trams.
Quote from: Busnerd on March 19, 2019, 08:49:21 PMNot sure how Paris's system is different from the new Sydney system, in most cases you'll find a metro is (more often than not, underground, but doesn't have to be) is usually a high frequency 90 seconds - 4 minute peak frequency high capacity train, travelling at normally no more than 50-60km/h and stopping every 1-2km, most usually have sideways facing seats to increase standing capacity meaning more people can be moved per hour, obviously paris has a LOT of lines, with different rolling stock on different lines, theirs also have a lot more seats than a traditional metro system such as those used in most developed asian cities and London to name a few.
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on March 26, 2019, 04:26:10 PMLight rail frequency across the day according to the riotact
QuoteSo in peak times (7-7.30am) they will run every 6 minutes to civic - but every 10 minutes back to gungahlin. So they will be "banking" up in civic. So in 30 minutes - 5 will arrive but 3 will leave. So 2 sitting there.
Quote from: triumph on April 18, 2019, 12:54:18 AMDo hope someone for the historical record can record fleet identities for first LRV carrying balloted passengers tomorrow.AND first public trip from EACH end on Sat.(Dammit, I will be away so can't.)
Quote from: Busnerd on April 18, 2019, 12:33:40 PMAll trips will commence at the same time on both days so there won't be a "first vehicle" there will be 6 or more departing at the same time.
Quote from: Barry Drive(BTW, I don't see the trial passenger run as significant, historically speaking. There have been many tests and "special" runs before now - this is just another.)
Quote from: Buzz Killington on April 18, 2019, 01:59:09 PMNot sure how many were used for the ballot today, but I saw 014 on a video.
Quote from: triumph on April 18, 2019, 12:54:18 AMAND first public trip from EACH end on Sat.(Dammit, I will be away so can't.)
Quote from: Toyota Camry on April 25, 2019, 08:31:57 AMI am curious as to the reason why you were not impressed; personally I suggest that you should have travelled the entire route to Gungahlin Place, that would have given you a larger sample of the route to conduct an assessment based upon.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on April 25, 2019, 09:42:15 AMIt wouldn't have, cause I was riding to try out the tram not the journey, and I didn't have the time to go the full way to see how much more disgusting Gungahlin has turned over the past few years, was bad enough last time I went there, esp now that it's plaguing Tuggeranong and Woden, see enough of it...
Quote from: Toyota Camry on April 25, 2019, 07:36:44 PMNgunnawal, one of Canberra's finest suburbs
Quote from: Toyota Camry on April 26, 2019, 10:34:54 AMAndrew Leigh MP will be hosting a mobile office onboard various light rail services between Gungahlin Place & Alinga Street this afternoon; as is stated in Dr Leigh's tweet, free travel for MyWay card holders has been arranged. This tweet has been linked below.https://twitter.com/ALeighMP/status/1120990045035307008
Quote from: triumph on April 28, 2019, 09:07:33 PM-'Flange squeal' rounding the tight curve into Flemington Rd from the Federal Highway was audible inside the LRV.
Quote from: Busnerd on April 29, 2019, 08:37:52 AM...although I have heard that Transit Graphics expressed interest in making new/better maps that actually have bus information, not just an icon with a bus and no further information.
Quote from: Busnerd on December 12, 2018, 08:40:09 AMI will agree with ajw373, the only time I see them crossing the median is usually at an intersection, and considering LRV's will be travelling at 70km/h unencumbered, I'm not sure that emergency vehicles would just drive into the corridor without letting the light rail operations know they're doing so, I'm sure it'd be quite the shock to see a vehicle pull on to the tracks in front of a tram at full speed, that said I wouldn't discount it, they drive on tracks in other cities so I guess we wait and see.
Quote from: Toyota Camry on August 08, 2019, 05:03:28 PMI will not be applying, as my existing salary in an EL1 role is much higher;
Quote from: Stan butler on August 08, 2019, 08:52:37 PMQuestion - why do you have to keep reminding us that you are an EL1? For the example above, why not just simply say. "I will not be applying".This is a serious question
Quote from: Toyota Camry on August 08, 2019, 09:05:37 PMIt appears that you have never been a member of the APS; it is very common in most departments and/or agencies to make reference in conversation to employment grades. If you are ever lucky enough to join the APS, you will understand; until then, it is best to not comment.
Quote from: Northside on August 08, 2019, 10:18:41 PMSome people would prefer to be a tram driver if that job gives them happiness and they feel like they can do a public good. Life's not all about APS levels and comparing wages.
Quote from: Toyota Camry on August 08, 2019, 10:29:39 PMI am not talking down the position of light rail operator; my statement was purely from a financial point of view. It is a serious job operating a light rail vehicle; it is not like a job that any person could do, such as working for UberEATS or McDonald's.
Quote from: triumph on May 11, 2019, 12:27:43 AMThe Canberra Times reported this week the Minister confirming that ambulances and emergency vehicles can use the light rail corridor to get around traffic.
Quote from: triumph on February 22, 2019, 11:42:33 PMCame across an interesting item in the engineering report on the proposal to add a light rail right turn from King William St to North Terrace (East) in Adelaide. The limitations of the latest modern multi-module light rail vehicles in Adelaide has effectively made the proposal unfeasable. Adelaide's newest are 5 module Alstom Citadis 302. There is an articulation between each module BUT only horizontally (yaw). This enables sharp curvature with little overhangs. In PITCH however, to accommodate vertical curves (sags, crests) there is only ONE articulation point being at the join of the second to third module (or from the other end, the 3rd and 4th module) and aggravated by stiff bogie suspension. This pitch limitation was a major factor in making the proposal unworkable (the intersection has complex gradients).Whilst this relates to the Citadis, I wonder if our CAF 5 module trams have a similar articulation arrangement? Searching the internet has so far not answered this question. It could be very relevant to stage 2 design near Parliament House.
Quote from: Toyota Camry on December 09, 2019, 10:59:37 AMLast night, emergency rail buses provided R1 services north of Dickson Interchange for the last two hours of service; vehicles were supplied by Transport Canberra, however it is unknown which buses were used.
Quote from: triumph on December 09, 2019, 11:40:36 AMInteresting, if 'emergency' it implies limited or no prior notice. Considering that ACTION regularly pleads over the radio for drivers to cover various runs, there aren't any or extremely few standby drivers, so how was this staffed so late of a Sunday night? Equally interesting is what was the 'emergency'? We may never know.
Quote from: undefinedSo I was in Civic this Saturday night and when trying to go back to Gungahlin I noticed the trams were only running to Dickson. Then there were replacement buses running from Dickson to Nullarbor, then another tram from Nullarbor to Gungahlin. Emergency vehicles were gathered at what looked to be the Sanford St-Flemington Rd intersection. I'm guessing this happened somewhere between 10pm and 12am?
Quote from: undefinedI was on the tram that got stopped on the tracks. Was a serious car accident across the tram tracks. The tram wasn't involved but we were stuck in the tram over 1 hour while emergency services did their thing. It didn't look great and was pretty full on. Haven't seen any follow up but hope the people in the car were alright.
Quote from: Barry Drive on August 22, 2019, 10:15:45 AMFunny you should ask. I recently asked the same question, and this is what I was told:1815 departure moved to 18101817 X1 to EPIC now full length service. The announcement was that they would run "every 10 minutes" between 1800 & 1830. But this change hasn't been reflected in the GTFS so the apps still show the original timetable. And by the looks of it, the PIDs haven't been changed either.
Quote from: Busnerd on December 17, 2020, 09:29:52 AMPresumably as all the parking around Dickson Shops are paid/timed, as such that carpark you speak of usually fills up quite early. I assume the reason for a permit here is to push people to use public transport by giving them free parking at the expense of locals just parking and walking to the shops to work to save money on parking fees.
Quote from: Busnerd on December 20, 2020, 07:28:23 PMI see that all as essentially the same carpark, also Swinden*.
Quote from: Barry Drive on December 16, 2020, 07:16:52 PMI saw that recently as well. The signs are not "Permit Zone" signs even though they are red. So they may not legally be required to show a permit. Also, the location is not listed on the TC website (yet)
Quote from: Busnerd on December 14, 2021, 07:18:18 PMYou will have to be more specific of which part you are referring to.
Quote from: narc855 on December 15, 2021, 08:41:44 AMLike Sandford St to Well Station Drive, can't be specific enough however I think all tracks with a speed limit of 65km/h are previously 70km/h. A small length of the track (after Flemington Rd turns westward) still has a speed limit of 70km/h btw.
Quote from: triumph on December 17, 2021, 11:12:33 PMHere's a possible clue. The Sydney morning Herald 'revealed last week' that CAF had written to the Government (that is the NSW government) in November 'suggesting the cracks (inner West route trams) had been caused by the trams running through bends in the tracks at relative high speed'. Umm. Surely the manufacturer has properly specified performance parameters and relative limitations. I find it hard to believe that usage was beyond those specifications, and to just suggest..... Well! Never-the-less Sandford Street to Well Station is a curvy section and perhaps caution pending a fix has been recommended. Perhaps there are other non-performance related concerns such as minimising wear and tear.Secondly the NSW Transport Minister and Transport for NSW Chief Operations Officer have announced that the inner west service, initially as far as Lilyfield, will resume in February using several trams (initially only 4, unstated as to whether coupled sets or single but assume single, to suit platform lengths) from the CBD line. So it appears that platform height and wheel profile issues are being overcome. How, is not indicated. Anything from one or more of precise measurement to track mods to wheel mods/replacement or even complete bogie replacement could be speculated. Anyone know any facts? (Whilst the connection is the same model tram here as the cracked ones in Sydney and it is interesting, perhaps this subject is in danger of drifting away from Canberra matters?)
Quote from: ajw373 on December 19, 2021, 06:06:53 PMNot sure how that is related. Vast majority of the track is straight.
Quote from: triumph on December 19, 2021, 09:16:18 PMSandford Street to Well Station Drive is quite curvy, and being the length cited (as I quoted previously in my comment), is what my comment clearly related to.
Quote from: ajw373 on December 20, 2021, 07:01:18 PMThat section has one long sweeping curve and very minor splaying at stops both of which are in the grand scheme of things is nothing. Especially when compared to the curved sections of the inner west line in Sydney. The section from the Casino to Fish Markets has about 5 changes in curve direction which i believe where the main issue is.But even beyond Lilyfield the line is very rarely straight with gentle but frequent changes in curve direction.