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triumph

Does anyone know how Canberra Metro Operations formally identify each of the two tracks? (Down/Up; Northbound/Southbound; West/East; 1/2; etc)

triumph

Light rail terminal operations usually involving crossing over to the departure track on arrival, so departures are straight ahead. (At busy times the reverse procedure is also used, mostly alternatively.) The actual cross overs are a 'scissors' arrangement where the crossover tracks intersect each other midway.

But in wet weather, such as happened today, the reverse of the usual routine is used. LRVs arrive straight ahead and cross over on departure. Why? Well it happens that run-off water tends to wash debris (from the landscaping mostly) towards the terminals with the points used to divert to the crossover for arriving (being the outermost) thus being at possible greater risk of the blade, due to debris, not being fully home, with (if unnoticed) consequent derailment or 'splitting the points' risk. Reversing the normal arrival/departure procedure at less busy times (such as weekend services) conveniently provides risk mitigation by the inner points being used to divert and outer arriving points being locked in the straight ahead position, also this reduces frequent inspection and debris clearing during wet weather costs. 
(Note: Debris reaching the inner arriving points tends to wash straight through, so operating the points to crossover on departure is less likely to cause problems.)

ajw373

Noticed today that the carpark next to the Swindon Street stop has been resigned as a Park and Ride. Gather that means users now need a park and ride permit to park there. Grrrrr

Barry Drive

I saw that recently as well. The signs are not "Permit Zone" signs even though they are red. So they may not legally be required to show a permit. Also, the location is not listed on the TC website (yet).

If in doubt, call 131710 or 132281.

ajw373

Must admit I've not understood the requirement for permits except in locations like town centres where the parking is paid and park and ride "free". Elsewhere at places like Swindon street don't see the point for a permit system. Should just be first in best server we which is what has been the case at Swindon st for the past 18 months

Busnerd

Presumably as all the parking around Dickson Shops are paid/timed, as such that carpark you speak of usually fills up quite early. I assume the reason for a permit here is to push people to use public transport by giving them free parking at the expense of locals just parking and walking to the shops to work to save money on parking fees.

ajw373

Quote from: Busnerd on December 17, 2020, 09:29:52 AMPresumably as all the parking around Dickson Shops are paid/timed, as such that carpark you speak of usually fills up quite early. I assume the reason for a permit here is to push people to use public transport by giving them free parking at the expense of locals just parking and walking to the shops to work to save money on parking fees.

Actually Dickson workers park closer to the Mouat Street intersection adjacent to the ovals. I've never seen anyone park at Swindon Street stop and walk towards Dickson.

Busnerd

I see that all as essentially the same carpark, also Swinden*.

ajw373

Quote from: Busnerd on December 20, 2020, 07:28:23 PMI see that all as essentially the same carpark, also Swinden*.

Park and ride signs are only on the section immediately adjacent to the stop.

ajw373

Quote from: Barry Drive on December 16, 2020, 07:16:52 PMI saw that recently as well. The signs are not "Permit Zone" signs even though they are red. So they may not legally be required to show a permit. Also, the location is not listed on the TC website (yet)

Swindon Street now appears on the Park and Ride map and doesn't require a permit.

So begs the question why they bothered changing the signs at the stop, though make sense having the blue park and ride signs on the main road pointing in.

Busnerd


triumph

Light Rail delay today
Late mid afternoon on 004 arrived N bound at Dickson Interchange. 005 was waiting S bound. Waited and watched. 008 came and went N bound. 005 still there. Reason now apparent. Ambulance arrived and someone on 005 was attended to. OO6 arrived N bound and both 006 and 005 departed simultaneously, with ambulance then leaving. N bound platform quickly became crowded with school students. 010,013, and 011 followed 005 in quick succession, then 009. Next N bound service was 005 back from Alinga St and already crowded. 010 arrived shortly after and picked up a substantial number of students unable to board 005, still some passengers incl person with a bike left over. Backlog cleared shortly after by 013. Service PA announcements referred to 'experiencing slight delays'.

It was interesting that though it is claimed there are standby staff, no LRV arrived to reverse over the crossover as soon as 005 left to fill in N bound, nor, alternatively, was any of the lightly loaded close headway LRVs following 005 terminated and reversed over the crossover to provide a fill in N bound. No doubt there was initial doubt about the nature and length of the delay and the actual delays were perhaps marginal which would mitigate turning out a standby LRV (it is even possible an earlier incident/failure could have seen the standby already deployed). But not terminating one of the closely spaced S bound LRVs and reversing back over the crossover to provide a fill in N bound service indicates a certain operational rigidity or lack of agility in responding to a service interruption. Again as the situation evolved and information was gained there would have been inevitably some initial hesitation in response. But quite clearly the moment 006 departed to the N it was clear that without a fill in passengers would have to wait for 005 to return from Alinga St and for the following service too.

Sylvan Loves Buses

Just read the email regarding the works around the London Circuit bridge. Isn't it a little excessive for the southbound buses to go via Constitution Avenue when they've usually gone straight to Vernon Circle in the past?
It probably doesn't matter as barely anyone's on the buses so the delays wouldn't be that bad at present.

Bus 400

That map is for general traffic that encounter the road closure on London Circuit. 

Going by the TC website, the Legislating Assembly stops are closed this weekend. So it's safe to say Commonly Avenue buses will go via Vernon Circle