Following on from the last game, edition 2 requires the naming of Canberra (or ACT) streets which buses run along, but there are no stops.
Similar rules as last time:
•refers to active stops at the time of submission
•includes all scheduled/published public bus services
•school only stops / school diversions are excluded
•only applies to the portion of road within the ACT
•"no stops" refers to the entire road, not just a particular route (eg Route R4 doesn't stop on Belconnen Way, but route 44 does)
•penalties may be applied for invalid answers
•if a street name is mentioned, that will be treated as a submission; if multiple names are mentioned the first name will be the submission
•may only refer to official routes
•Service roads, Access roads and unnamed roads are excluded
Each person can only submit one street name at a time and cannot submit consecutive entries.
A previous correct submission cannot be repeated.
The winner will be whomever makes the last correct entry. There is no prize.
To get started: Akuna Street
Sturt Avenue
Ernest Cavanagh St
Quote from: Barry Drive on January 25, 2022, 12:06:14 PMonly applies to the portion of road within the ACT
Then we can say: Barton Hwy
Beaufighter St, Majura
Monaro Highway
Nettlefold Street
Sulwood Drive Wanniassa
Gold Creek Road, Nicholls
Queen Victory Terrace, Parkes.
Flack Street, Holt
Isa St, Fyshwick
Walpole Crescent, Parkes
Tom Price street, Fyshwick
King George Terrace, Parkes
Capital Circle, Capital Hill.
Nyrang St, Narrabundah
Flynn Drive, Parkes
Conder Street, Weston.
Isabella Drive
Erindale Drive
Caswell Drive, Aranda
Staff Cadet Avenue, Duntroon.
Piallgo Drive
Morshead Drive, Campbell
Holwell St, Greenway.
McMillan Crescent, Narrabundah
Girrahween St, Braddon
Kingsley Street, Acton/City
Taverner St, Wanniassa
Flinders Way, Red Hill
Lanyon Dr, Hume
Palmer Street, Garran.
Yarra Glen
Uriarra Rd
Reg Saunders Way, Russell
Adelaide Avenue
Coaldrake Avenue, Denman Prospect
Liardet st, Weston
Cooyong Street, Reid.
Springvale Dr
Rogan Street, Canberra Airport
Wyndham Avenue, Denman Prospect
Cowlishaw St, Greenway
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on January 31, 2022, 12:23:27 AMCowlishaw St, Greenway
Has this short cut been formalized? If so can you indicate which routes please?
Ever ridden the 71 before?
A longish time ago. I had forgotten this departing 71 service. My mind was focussed on arriving services which are in the habit of short cutting. Had wondered if the short cutting had been made official - apparently not. Many thanks.
Had planned to be on first service today but tennis into early morning took priority.
William Hovell Dr, Route 47
Hazel Hawke Avenue
Mulligans Flat Road
Trevor Gibson Way, Taylor
Bradley Street (Woden Interchange)
Groom Street, Hughes.
McEwan Avenue, Oaks Estate
The section of Coppins Crossing Road between the 2 sections of John Gorton Drive seems eligible.
So, Coppins Crossing Dr, route 47
It's a road, not drive.
A temporary one, Well Station Drive
Quote from: narc855 on February 01, 2022, 12:42:40 PMIt's a road, not drive.
Yeah yeah, another typo. I know I am irritatingly good at that - some call them 'seniors moments'. I notice you didn't correct 'Victory' or 'Coppings' (Game 1) which were not in my posts.....
Quote from: triumph on February 01, 2022, 01:57:23 PMYeah yeah, another typo. I know I am irritatingly good at that - some call them 'seniors moments'. I notice you didn't correct 'Victory' or 'Coppings' (Game 1) which were not in my posts.....
Because I just posted next to your post... lol
Tennyson Crescent, Forrest.
River St, Oaks Estate
Badham Street, Dickson
Gecko Way, Throsby
Bruche Road, Duntroon.
Judkins Street, Oxley
Mcmichael Terrace, Denman Prospect
Kirinari St, Bruce
Eade Street, Bruce
Majura Ave, Dickson.
Jellicoe Street, Palmerston (route 23)
⚠️ Crace
Wakefield Avenue
Cooinda St, Bruce
Statton Street, Gowrie
Just to get it out of the way:
Edgeworth Parade (Coombs).
Hopefully there are no more of these type of streets.
Given the way Canberra streets are designed and how I found one in Forrest, I'm sure there's plenty of others that have been created before Coombs.
Furneuax St, Griffith/Manuka
Donaldson Street, Braddon.
Prefer to wait for 2 others before posting again, hence why I didn't make one before.
Can we get a list yet please?
❌ Stop 0300 is serviced by 53 towards Dickson.
Penalty: wait for two valid answers
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 06, 2022, 03:03:41 PMGiven the way Canberra streets are designed and how I found one in Forrest, I'm sure there's plenty of others that have been created before Coombs.
That's why this game is more difficult...
Clarrie Hermes Drive
Purdie St, Bruce
Quote from: Barry Drive on February 06, 2022, 02:10:42 PMJust to get it out of the way:
Edgeworth Parade (Coombs).
Hopefully there are no more of these type of streets.
Can you elaborate on what the type is that it is hoped there are no more of.
Canberra has quite a few peculiarities such as streets that meet another street twice (common, and a pain in the neck when defining an intersection/junction for a feed back or accident report, etc) and even streets that intersect/junction with themselves. But I didn't see anything odd on the map about Edgeworth Pde..
There are also some rather unusual descriptors eg Scotts
Crossing in the City. Crossing what??
Norse Rd (QCity route just inside ACT)
Allawoona Street (University of Canberra)
Mustang Avenue, Canberra Airport
Lathlain St, Belconnen
Get rid of this controversial one.
Joynton Smith Drive, Belconnen
❌ unless I'm missing something: that's a no
Penalty: wait two valid answers
Okay I was cheated by Anytrip...
I can't insert a photo but the Cohen Street between Lathlain St and Benjamin Way shows Joynton Smith Drive on Anytrip.
(not the orginal controversial point I think, actually thinks about Belconnen Community Station but anyway)
Quote from: narc855 on February 08, 2022, 08:10:23 PMOkay I was cheated by Anytrip...
I can't insert a photo but the Cohen Street between Lathlain St and Benjamin Way shows Joynton Smith Drive on Anytrip.
(not the orginal controversial point I think, actually thinks about Belconnen Community Station but anyway)
Anytrip must be years and years out of date. If I recall correctly Joynton Smith it was
before the Mall was extended and the Westfield Stop developed as part of the Mall works. Relying on a single non-official site like Anytrip, and even Google or Wikipedia, without corroboration is always a risk. Though both Google and Wikipedia are a good bit more reliable than some others. These games have exposed shortcomings though across the board, even in some official sites.
Quote from: Barry Drive on February 06, 2022, 02:10:42 PMJust to get it out of the way:
Edgeworth Parade (Coombs).
Hopefully there are no more of these type of streets.
Are you sure about that one? If you have a look at the street signs it seems to indicate Edgeworth Pde starts from the western side of Fred Daly, whereas the street sign for Annabelle view continues through the eastern side of Fred Daly. I can see that Google maps says the median between Fred Daly is Edgeworth, but I think that's not quite accurate.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 06, 2022, 05:15:40 PM❌ Stop 0300 is serviced by 53 towards Dickson.
Ffs, that's the last time I use Google maps for this stuff. Having bus stops appear at different zoom levels is stupid.
Quote from: narc855Joynton Smith Drive, Belconnen... shows Joynton Smith Drive on Anytrip
It shows the stops that were used back when the 41 or whichever it was use to run Emu Bank alongthe the foreshore. It'll only show them as blue squares now and outlined buses when zoomed right in. It certainly isn't correct for usage at the moment (unless there's a detour I'm unaware of).
Quote from: narc855 on February 06, 2022, 06:37:35 PMThat's why this game is more difficult...
For a time it was fun, but now it is yeah. Time to start checking timetables I thnk.
Dugong Way, Throsby.
Quote from: Northside on February 08, 2022, 11:14:18 PMI can see that Google maps says the median between Fred Daly is Edgeworth, but I think that's not quite accurate.
It is. I actually checked this before posting.
Quote from: triumph on February 07, 2022, 02:39:20 PMThere are also some rather unusual descriptors eg Scotts Crossing in the City. Crossing what??
Lennox Crossing was a crossing of Molonglo River from the hospital to Commonwealth Avenue - it still exists but only as far as the National Museum.
Nothing remains of the original Scotts Crossing - it crossed the river and ran from the bottom of Anzac Parade to King Edward Terrace near what is now NGA. Scotts Crossing in the City is named to commemorate this road.
Anyway, back on topic: Flynn Place
Luke Street, Holt
Currently, Gordon St, Acton
Currently, Bowes St, Phillip
Spitfire Avenue, Canberra Airport
Surprisingly not so many left.
Mead Street, Chisholm
Vernon Circle, City (TrainLink coach services)
Goldstein Crescent, Chisholm.
Railway Street, OAKS ESTATE
Mildura St, Kingston/Fyshwick
⚠️ Griffith / Kingston, actually
Parkes Way (TrainLink services)
Benjamin Way, Belconnen
✅ used by 843 to/from Yass
Halley Street, Chisholm.
Bowen Drive (I think it is used by coaches).
Bowen Place, Parkes
Quote from: Barry Drive on February 06, 2022, 02:10:42 PMHopefully there are no more of these type of streets.
Found another one lol.
Macnally Street, Weston.
Flemington Rd
Dickson Place, Dickson
Just did some bus spotting at Woden Interchange this morning so
Matilda Street, Phillip
Ellery Cresent, Acton.
❌ invalid answer. The street is not currently being used by buses.
Come on, chop chop. There's still a bunch left.
George Tyson Drive, Canberra Airport
❌ unless I'm missing something: no route services operate this street
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 23, 2022, 11:14:29 PMCome on, chop chop. There's still a bunch left.
But the point is that it doesn't make too many senses to submit the trainlink roads as they actually don't run like that...
Anyway, Lady Denman Drive
I have compiled a list of all 95 valid answers. Unfortunately there's a system problem that prevents me from posting it to this topic.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 23, 2022, 11:14:29 PMCome on, chop chop. There's still a bunch left.
At a guess, most of what's left are the Trainlink routes.
But one that is on an ACTION route:
Eureka Way
Quote from: vnguyen on February 24, 2022, 09:21:57 AMGeorge Tyson Drive, Canberra Airport
❌ unless I'm missing something: no route services operate this street
Google Maps says different. Maybe a shouldn't trust it anymore. Is that a penalty?
Arrgh. Looks like TC didn't update the GTFS to remove the temporary route during the road closure near the Vibe Hotel. R3 is not supposed to go that way any longer.
No penalty since there's already been two valid answers since.
Leichhardt Street, Kingston
Quote from: Barry Drive on February 25, 2022, 10:05:48 AMAt a guess, most of what's left are the Trainlink routes.
For which I see 3 more. Looked like this topic was being neclected, maybe I was a little too hyped to get things moving.
⚠️❓ More information required: what route(s) use Leichhardt St?
Majura Parkway.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 25, 2022, 12:55:21 PMLeichhardt Street, Kingston
Did I miss something?
Cameron Ave, Belconnen
Quote from: narc855 on February 26, 2022, 11:00:46 AMDid I miss something?
Cameron Ave, Belconnen
I think its another one of the "Edgeworth Parade" streets.
Quote from: narc855 on February 24, 2022, 12:58:57 PMBut the point is that it doesn't make too many senses to submit the trainlink roads as they actually don't run like that...
Anyway, Lady Denman Drive
Out of curiosity, what service uses Lady Denman Dr?
Quote from: narc855 on February 26, 2022, 11:00:46 AMCameron Ave, Belconnen
On paper, maybe. The stop pattern of route 843 makes College St the more likely route, but haven't verified it either way.
Quote from: triumph on February 26, 2022, 11:57:56 PMOut of curiosity, what service uses Lady Denman Dr?
784 (Trainlink Coach) to Goulburn - at least in theory.
I think most answers left are about route 783/784...
Quote from: Barry Drive on February 27, 2022, 09:19:33 AM784 (Trainlink Coach) to Goulburn - at least in theory.
Thanks for that answer re Lady Denman Drive. So continued curiosity meant I wanted to see the map of the complete route. After much searching I did the simple thing and put the search term 'Canberra - Goulburn Coach route' in and it came up with a Transport for NSW web item for the that route showing the map for the Goulburn bound journey, It showed the Parkway not Lady Denman Dr as the route.
Thoroughly confusing. Was the map I found out of date I wonder?
(Because Lady Denman Dr is, in part, close to the Parkway it is necessary to enlarge the map to see the difference, but the rest via Caswell Dr and Cotter Rd is obvious.)
Quote from: triumph on February 28, 2022, 05:21:46 PMThanks for that answer re Lady Denman Drive. So continued curiosity meant I wanted to see the map of the complete route. After much searching I did the simple thing and put the search term 'Canberra - Goulburn Coach route' in and it came up with a Transport for NSW web item for the that route showing the map for the Goulburn bound journey, It showed the Parkway not Lady Denman Dr as the route.
Thoroughly confusing. Was the map I found out of date I wonder?
(Because Lady Denman Dr is, in part, close to the Parkway it is necessary to enlarge the map to see the difference, but the rest via Caswell Dr and Cotter Rd is obvious.)
This is the current one on TfNSW website.
https://transportnsw.info/routes/details/trainlink/784/76784
Edit: but indeed there is no Lady Denman Drive while Anytrip has it. So I would recall my answer.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 25, 2022, 12:55:21 PM⚠️❓ More information required: what route(s) use Leichhardt St?
Like a bunch of Trainlink services arriving at the Kingston Railway Station. It's another one of those dumb roads (https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-35.3206773,149.1479352,21z) you were hoping there weren't others of, invalidate it if you want idc. As long as anytrip and TransportNSW mark it as so, that's good enough for me, I'm not gonna nerd out about a game with no noticable prize. Btw, I still see at least 2 others.
Quote from: narc855 on February 28, 2022, 09:30:12 PMThis is the current one on TfNSW website.
https://transportnsw.info/routes/details/trainlink/784/76784
Edit: but indeed there is no Lady Denman Drive while Anytrip has it. So I would recall my answer.
Although that map has several errors, so it can't be completely relied upon either.
(And note it shows the TC bus stop is being used at the Airport as well.)
As it's not clear which route is correct, I'm happy to retain the answer.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on March 01, 2022, 09:44:41 AMLike a bunch of Trainlink services arriving at the Kingston Railway Station.
Got it. Although I doubt the Trainlink buses use that approach when they could use Burke Cres.
However, the R2 trips which divert to the Railway Station would ever so briefly traverse Leichhardt St, so it's a valid answer.
While on the topic of Trainlink:
Dudley St.
Edinburgh Avenue (Trainlink again).
Chandler Street. Belconnen. (TrainkLink service) Cant see any TC stop on Google maps.
❌ can't allow this. In this instance the GTFS route is clearly wrong as you can't travel from Chandler St to Belconnen Interchange.
The website map is also wrong as it shows Benjamin Way then a right turn to Cohen St, which is not permitted.
I believe the route taken involves College St, Lathlain St then Cohen St.
⚠️ you may submit a new answer without penalty since there are few, if any, valid answers remaining
Coranderrk St, used by 784. It shows up on the website going via this this route not sure it is correct though.
There is no correct or wrong since all stops in Canberra (excluding City and Beleonnen Interchange) on 783/784 are requested stops only.
There is one that's not 783/784 though.
Wisdom Street, Hughes
Edit: this is not an vavid answer, thanks Sylvan for pointing out. It's actually a bit hard to pay attention to action routes at the same time...
57 stops on Wisdom Street at the shops.
Followup edit: Indeed. Whatever the next game is, it might be best to start with the trainlink stuff and get them out of the way.
Rudd Street
Many buses need to use this street to access City Interchange platform 8 (especially the R6-55 connection).
And there is a formal bus route using this street: 855 Wollongong to Canberra operated by Murrays.
Using that same logic, Moore Street.
Prettymuch sure someone is going to say Moore Street...
Kennedy Street, Kingston
This street is used by MCS (South Coast to Canberra).
https://transportnsw.info/routes/details/murrays-coaches/mcs/08mcs
Since this one is on TfNSW offical page, I would say it's a formal route.
In that case we can say Coronation Drive.
Allsop Street, City
All routes depart from City West need to use that street (?).
So can we use the Elighten Shuttle for this? I saw one in service yesterday.
Parkes Place W (I assume that means west), Parkes.
In that case we can say Bunda Street
Quote from: narc855 on March 05, 2022, 07:25:37 PMAllsop Street, City
This was the last valid answer. As it was more than 7 days ago, this answer is the winner.
This game is now complete.
I was hesitant to make any more guesses given my own rule of waiting for 2 others. I think there was still a bunch from the RED Explorer bus, but I was unable to find any official/unofficial route maps of it.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on March 14, 2022, 10:47:28 PMI was hesitant to make any more guesses given my own rule of waiting for 2 others. I think there was still a bunch from the RED Explorer bus, but I was unable to find any official/unofficial route maps of it.
Yeah, I looked for Red bus detail too. They seem more interested in the $ than providing detail. The best diagram (won't give it the privilege of 'map') I could find was actually on the back of the bus itself.
Some destinations would enable some streets to be inferred.
Relying on Offical maps, I think there was a V-line route of interest, but having lost track of the 7 days and thus losing the opportunity... .
Congratulations to the winner.
I was going to go up to the driver and ask him directly, but I kept forgetting to be there at the right times. I know he uses Lawson Cresent to get to the Museum, so that would've been one of them, oh well.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 20, 2022, 02:19:47 PMEllery Cresent, Acton.
❌ invalid answer. The street is not currently being used by buses.
This also returned to being valid again too, surprised no one went for it.
Quote from: triumph on March 15, 2022, 12:02:20 PMI think there was a V-line route of interest
I have checked that: there are two V-line routes to Vic, one via Yass and one via Cooma, but there's no route shown inside the ACT region and from the stopping pattern there's no new answer to this game.