Network 08 General Dicussion

[Irisbus Rider]

Split from Release Date topic - R

I'm thinking that a month isn't enough time to accumulate all the suggestions that we have given ACTION over the past weeks, as I'm assuming the Network will be complete and ready to go by February. I hope they even took note of our suggestions!

[Busnerd]

Well I'd assume they would have already started writing the network out, and basic timetables, and after reading all the suggestions they would then make any changes accordingly. Before then doing a second draft which, im now thinking will be put out online first, for final viewing so that they still have a month to fine tune it.

So im thinking they will come out at the end of february online. And the timetables will come out a week before the new network in print form.

[Barry Drive]

It's now March, and there is no sign of the new Network on ACTION's web site. I want to know whether they disregarded all of my suggestions, or just some of them.

Plus I want as much time as possible to learn the new routes.

[Bus 400]

I sent them an e-mail yesterday about when the info will be released & if any changes are to be made following public comment.

[Buzz Killington]

there was a story tonight on WIN News about a petition signed by 300 patrons of the 769 angry because it wasnt being included in the new network.

Leaving it a bit late considering when input closed, no comment from the government either, just the usual lame "disgust" from has-beens like Brendan Smyth who wouldn't catch a bus if his life depended on it.

But my pure dislike of the ACT Liberal Party aside, there isnt any real replacement for the 769, apart from the 788 and 789 servicing parts of Calwell and Chisholm.

They won't make changes once the info is released. They'll make them maybe six to eight months into the network

[Irisbus Rider]

Yeah, exactly, thhats the problem, we only had one chance, and there are minute changes that ought to be made just to tweak the system, and use it to it's maximum potential.

[Bus 400]

I have been going through my records from the end of '06 & I remember ebing told by a driver that the Intertown routes would be altered in the Network '07 (Network '06 Fix Up) where they wouldn't go suburb-intertown-suburb as break downs meant that there were big gaps between services (312 breakdown in Theo meant 2 hour wait in Belco for next 312) & this is exactly what has been down in this Network.

[Irisbus Rider]

Well, drivers also said the 333 would come back. It sort of did...

I prefer this Intertown setup, it's much better.

[Buzz Killington]

agreed. its not like anybody except enthusiasts caught the whole length of the 31# routes anyway (and yes, i know thats not the idea)

[Irisbus Rider]

It's just that they stuffed up the 312/315 in the southbound portion of it, the 111 is just stupid! I hope that gets cleared up.

I say bring back the 40/41 and the 310/311 can take over the southbound portion of the 312/315.

[Barry Drive]

I say bring back the 40/41 and the 310/311 can take over the southbound portion of the 312/315.

Neither of those scenarios are likely to happen. One of the goals of the new network is to have the same route operating 7 days a week. This is why 40 & 41 are being combined as are 30 & 31 (Curtin end) - so that there is only one route at all times.

As for 312/315 - one reason why they are being changed is so that they no longer terminate at Theodore. As evident by the signs at Theo, there is/are nearby residents who do not appreciate having noisy buses parked near their house(s).

[Irisbus Rider]

Ah, I see, thanks for that information Martin. It's beginning to make sense, and unfortunately, you can't please everyone.

[Buzz Killington]

pffft.. theodore terminus was probably there before they were

its like moving under a flight path and having a whinge about the noise

[Busnerd]

Yeah Jerra, quit yur bitchin

[Bus 400]

Why doesn't ACTIOn just take a leaflet out of Transperth booklet who had this problem when their Network '07 started up with new terminus. They just moced them to emepty blocks. So ACTION could move Theodore Terminus to Calwell Shops & call it Calwell Termnius.

[Busnerd]

Why do these people whinge, OH NO, I'd hate to put up with 2 minutes per hour of scania high idling...bloody whingers, its only theodore, their houses are only worth like $200,000 anyway.

[Bus 400]

& that is only during weekdays when most are at work anyway.

[Busnerd]

I know, they are just a bunch of whingers..yet I bet they complain about lack of services too!

[Irisbus Rider]

If they didn't before, they will now, ha ha.

[Buzz Killington]

lol, they whinge about the noise when it is serviced, they whnge about the inconvenience when its not..

[Irisbus Rider]

Anyone seen the front page of the Southside Chronicle? People whinging about the 37! Pfft, they're not getting rid of it, stupid people.

[Barry Drive]

People whinging about the 37! Pfft, they're not getting rid of it, stupid people.

Do you know something the rest of us don't? Based on the proposed route structure, the current 37 is being gotten rid of. (The number is being re-used to replace the current 80.)

Anyway, the time for whinging about the proposed route changes is over - bring on the actual network changes and let the proper whinging begin!

[Irisbus Rider]

The 170 and the 37 has ben re-instated due to overwhelming public response according to a bus driver. It might not be credible, but he did say it.

[Bus 400]

The 170 and the 37 has ben re-instated due to overwhelming public response according to a bus driver. It might not be credible, but he did say it.

That will be in Network '09 when alot lot of services are improved with routes reinstated & more times added.

[O305]

Why would they decide on Network 09, before Network 08 has been released?

[Irisbus Rider]

The 170 and the 37 has ben re-instated due to overwhelming public response according to a bus driver. It might not be credible, but he did say it.

That will be in Network '09 when alot lot of services are improved with routes reinstated & more times added.

No it won't, where did you hear that?
Don't say things if they have no substance or evidence, just don't make things up, it ends up looking like you have pie all over your face.

Due to overwhelming public response, selected services and changes have been altered. Thats why there was a time for public comment, they want to get the Network right this time...............election year.

[Sir Pompously]

Network '09? Ha. That would be Network '10 for starters (Networks seem to be changed every even year). 170 would be re-instated by assumption as the route is always full (in the mornings when I catch it is) and they were deleting a service, and not improving or increasing services in the areas it served which would leave a huge gap and fuller 60 series routes in the areas. 37 (I think), never caught it but the people are kicking up a stink which ACTION want to try to avoid.

[Bus 400]

On the odd years they do major fix up of the networks including adding/deleting routes & times.

[Buzz Killington]

i'd like to remind all members to ensure that speculation should be noted as such, and not as fact.

[Irisbus Rider]

Ok, what they should do is extend the 7 from it's current terminating spot to to Woden via Hughes, Yarralumla, Forrest and Russell.

Ok, from City, L London, L Constitution, Through Russell, R Kings Av, L National, L Canberra Av, Through Manuka, R Franklin.....L Arthur Circle, L Empire, L Melbourne, R Gawler, R Hopetoun, L Schlich St, L Novar, L Denison, R Carruthers, L Groom, R Wisdom...direct to Woden.
This would provide Woden a direct link to Hughes, A link from Manuka to Yarralumla and Hughes, and a direct link from Yarralumla to Russell.
It would also cover the forgotten streets, such as Wisdom St, Groom St, a part of Denison St, Empire CCT and Arthur Circle.

What do you think?

[Bus 400]

It sounds good. But as I remember hardly anybody got on/off in those streets (including pre Network '06). But it will be sad in Girls Grammar loose their Woden bus. As quite a lot of them got on the 83 on Empire & caught it express to Woden, rather then clogging up the 34.

[Irisbus Rider]

Well, it was more for the elderly, but still, it would be a good run to do, plus it'd just be an extension of the 7, taking an extra 20 mins.

[Buzz Killington]

New stops have been installed on Barr Smith Avenue for route 66 - there used to be two lots of School Only stops between the two ends of Derrington Cres - they've left those there, added new stops opposite both and added two new stops (one each side) between Derrington and Coombe.

[Irisbus Rider]

Stops have been put in place on Joynton Smith Dr in preperation for the 45.

[Sir Pompously]

Bus Stop signs and Signal Bus stickers have been placed up at Brindabella Business Park, they were not up yesterday. I am shocked that they have not put one of the new signs out there, but they probably are not ready for ACTION's use yet.

[Bus 400]

I wonder wether they'll use any of the old bus stops out at Fairbarn?

I actually noticed that Route 62/162 will loose some of its peak services.

[Busnerd]

I actually noticed that Route 62/162 will loose some of its peak services.

I actually noticed you live in perth..

[Bus 400]

I actually noticed you live in perth..

Took you a while

[Busnerd]

 

[Sir Pompously]

Did not see any old bus stops at Fairbairn when I drove through today, only ones which ACTION have recently erected. A full report of where they are and my journey to Fairbairn coming up in the 6pm edition of Pompously News.

[bubzie]

I've noticed that they must of deleted the "theodore" destination out of the 315. (and possibly the 312..havent noticed) on the iris's (i'm going to hell for that english, yes?)

because they supposebly all only go to tuggers

And apparently they're already taking down the bus stops near the theodore shops..according to my (not so reliable!) friend. I'll see it to believe it.

[Busnerd]

Im offended i sent them desto files and they didnt even reply, despite mine being obviously better than anything they can come up with

[Sir Pompously]

*Plays an opening harmony in posh fashion by Mozart*
Good evening everyone my name is Sir Pompously Winston-Smyth. This is the first edition of the Pompously News, and you must be an exclusive member of the Pompous Elite to be able to partake in a miniscule second of this ripping program. I also do wish to apologise for the tardiness of the 6pm edition, I was too busy driving my Bently while drinking a port and smoking my pipe, when I happened to run into a commoner. Don't they know the road is for the rich? Vauxhall, what an inferior product you make which is no match for my glourious Bently!

In public transport news (Not that any of us would dare take those dirty buses, haw haw!) ACTION have erected those poles that seem to stop the buses in an area called Fairbairn. Reports are there is one on Pearce Avenue, Laverton Avenue and Glenora drive, but only in one direction. Fairbairn reminds me of home, tall oak trees, private jets, luxury motor vehicles, large buildings and best of all, no commoners.

Now if you will all excuse me, I am going to drink my Christophers VP, with a pipe and watch some British Porn. So much more elegant than the trashy American stuff.

Thankyou all, commoners may now tune back in..

Sir pompously signing out.



Todd Milton signing in,

Yes bubzie, I noticed something strange with a 315 passing me on Adelaide Ave which just had '315' and nothing more. Plus a frantic message from John exclaiming something about a bus with the route 11 on the desto.

[Buzz Killington]

You're a tool

I am going to  watch some British Porn.

English Man: (monotone) Almost....Almost.....Almost....There we are
English Woman: well done!

[Irisbus Rider]

Ha ha!

Apparently, from memory, there are old stops (shelter sort too) somewhere behind the airport. Not much help, I know, but somewhere, behind the airport, with the crappy 50's houses, it has old ACTION stops. Isn't it Fairbairn?

[The Love Guru]

Desto's have been reprogrammed progressively for the new network. Those buses that are reprogrammed will only be displaying the route number to avoid confusion and the accidental display of incorrect route numbers.

[Buzz Killington]

makes sense

being in the know, chris, are we not going to see any .2's on Route 4? Or are they going to order some new blinds that have the alphabet characters?

[Irisbus Rider]

Good point, MkI .2s might not been seen around there as much anymore, which would be a shame.....

[Busnerd]

Anything can display EAST/WEST except for .2 mark 1's which would have to display 4 PALMERSTON or 4 HARRISON BELCONNEN but that wont work for the city, i dont see why they didnt name one of them the 1...

They better have used some of my desto suggestions.

[Buzz Killington]

whoops, should've specified that i meant the Mk1's...

as if they would listen to a logical suggestion, we'll still see shit like "10 BRINDABELLA PK"

If they had any bloody sense they'd add more destinations in:

319 LANYON MARKETPLACE / via Intertown / Bonython / Conder / Banks