Network '09

Irisbus Rider · November 13, 2008, 01:27:34 PM

They really ought to extend the 5(0) to Belconnen, and terminate the 56 and 58 at Gungahlin, as myself and another driver have discussed many times!

Barry Drive · November 16, 2008, 12:35:57 PM

I don't mind the 56/58 going to Belconnen - but the 59 as well is unnecessary. They could change the 59 to run as a loop (like the 54 used to do) to/from Gungahlin with connections to the 56 or 58 from Belconnen and extend it to the City during peak.

Barry Drive · November 19, 2008, 02:30:09 PM

Some more information on route 704 - according to the shift cards it will service Aranda, Macquarie, Hawker, Hawker College, Higgins and terminate at Kippax.

Irisbus Rider · November 19, 2008, 02:56:08 PM

I hope it's not a 17 + 10 to the city. Thats not an Xpresso! Thats not exactly express for the residents in the 17 part. And it's basically just an extra 10 then, but in this case, it'll be full by the time it gets to Macquarie! How odd.

Buzz Killington · January 11, 2009, 12:05:26 PM

Here's some CONFIRMED route info (as predicted by a few of you guys, i might add) that we've heard about:

Route 4 will be split up into Route 4, Route 56 and Route 58
Route 8 will be split up into Route 8 and Route 80

New Routes Include:

71 - Belconnen Loop via Kaleen
77 - Woden Loop via Curtin and Canberra Hospital (possibly the opposite direction to the 76)

Irisbus Rider · January 11, 2009, 02:14:46 PM

Wow, 77, thats a good Idea, good to see ACTIONs looking after the oldies.

lukeo25 · January 11, 2009, 04:17:05 PM

any changes to the intertowns i wonder or Xpressos ( i need an Xpresso to go from torrens shops via chifley shops and pearce shops to the city ) it will be like the 720 but will be numbered 721

Buzz Killington · January 11, 2009, 04:24:41 PM

No changes to the Xpresso services that I can see.

The Love Guru · January 11, 2009, 07:50:08 PM

The route changes will happen in Feb, as they are on all the shifts that were picked in the last spill, which start on Feb 2nd.

Bus 400 · January 11, 2009, 08:20:01 PM

When will this info be released to the public? Also what about these changes that were planned for the closure of Belco Interchange

The Love Guru · January 11, 2009, 08:51:00 PM

ACT Govt have just released information to Belconnen residents about the changes. The last thing i was told, the interchange will close at the end of April, but i'm sure this is subject to change.

Bus 400 · January 11, 2009, 08:53:41 PM

It that info that new brochure about town centre improvements or something else?

Buzz Killington · January 16, 2009, 05:40:33 PM

The February 2 changes are now on ACTIONs website:

New Routes are 56, 58, 71, 76, 77, 80 and 704

All details here http://www.action.act.gov.au/improvements_to_network09.html

I'll add a Network 09 page onto the site soon

Bus 400 · January 16, 2009, 07:06:32 PM

Good to see that Route 4 has been made into 3 routes.

But it appears that ACTION have altered the number series as 00-09 & 30-39 is for North/South Canberra

Buzz Killington · January 16, 2009, 08:20:34 PM

annnnnd we've already got a mistake

The PDF Timetable for Route 8 states "Dickson - Lyneham - Macarthur - City"

Whoops. (it refers to Macarthur Ave, but still..)

and on Route 56, a "street legend" (used where there's no room to type the names on the map) lists three streets that arent even on the route.

Lockie · January 16, 2009, 10:43:21 PM

I am loving the split of the 4.

Bus 400 · January 16, 2009, 10:47:15 PM

Quote from: Mr Snrub on January 16, 2009, 08:20:34 PM
...on Route 56, a "street legend" (used where there's no room to type the names on the map) lists three streets that arent even on the route.

Street number 4 is on Route 56.

Although I just picked on the old 4 in Gungahlin is shows Route 5 at Gungahlin Marketplace.

I do wonder what was the point of splitting Route 4?

lukeo25 · January 17, 2009, 01:52:37 AM

Quote from: TP 3000 on January 16, 2009, 10:47:15 PM
I do wonder what was the point of splitting Route 4?

maybe lots of people got confused by the route number

also BAD idea no late services to DFO when it is late nite shopping on what ever day it is there

good idea a service to DFO

Buzz Killington · January 17, 2009, 09:43:56 AM

DFO closes at 6pm every night..

Buzz Killington · January 17, 2009, 12:37:25 PM

The Network 09 page can now be found on the site under the "Information > Routes" Menu

Barry Drive · January 18, 2009, 08:22:19 PM

Quote from: TP 3000 on January 16, 2009, 07:06:32 PM
But it appears that ACTION have altered the number series as 00-09 & 30-39 is for North/South Canberra

What you talking 'bout? Or ''please explain''? There are no problems with the new route numbers used.

Another error: the map for route 58 has many errors - it shows the 'temporary' route through Franklin but does not follow Christina Stead Ave properly, it labels Cultivation St as Carpentaria St [Ryan - please fix route in Network 09], it calls Anthony Rolfe Av Anthony Rolfe Street and then the line shows the route travels along Rudd St which is labelled Girrahween St.

I was hoping that route 58 would see the route change to travel along Oodergoo Av but maybe there's not enough people living there yet.

704 timetable refers to "KIppax". BTW 704 will go through Cook, even though the map has no suburb labels for Cook, Macquarie or Aranda.

Either Transit Graphics has some new staff or this was an extremely rushed job because the quality is poor. Maybe the errors will be fixed up before they are printed.

Buzz Killington · January 18, 2009, 08:57:23 PM

thanks Martin, will fix that up.

How the hell they mistake Rudd and Girrahween i don't know... They're a whole three blocks apart.

Buzz Killington · January 18, 2009, 09:03:04 PM

Also, to be fair - I just checked Google Maps and they have incorrectly marked Cultivation and Carpenteria as well.

Barry Drive · January 18, 2009, 09:16:24 PM

I've just had a look at the Route 80 timetable. The map may be wrong - the directions for 980 through DFO were originally what is shown but it was then changed to go Newcastle St (L) Iron Knob St (L) Beaconsfield St (cont) Tom Price St (R) Iron Knob St. Also the map shows the 80 route goes back along the Canberra Av service road and through Lithgow and Wiluna Streets after Symonston North when the current 8 goes straight along Canberra Av and Monaro Highway.

Once the official route listing get handed out I'll know for sure.

Bus 400 · January 18, 2009, 10:01:42 PM

I was behind a 980 yesterday & he went via Canberra Avenue.

Barry Drive · January 23, 2009, 10:16:27 AM

Quote from: TP 3000 on January 18, 2009, 10:01:42 PM
I was behind a 980 yesterday & he went via Canberra Avenue.

Doesn't surprise me. I'll bet it was a Tuggeranong depot bus.

Have picked up most of the printed timetables (not 80 though). Most of the errors mentioned below are still there. Also some new ones:
- the timetables for 30, 31 and 71 are not colour-coded to match the map.
- the Route 8 description says Dickson to City via Lyneham, Macarthur Avenue, Miller Street and O'Connor - when it doesn't travel along Macarthur Ave at all.
- the timing for 704 is incorrect - it allows 5 minutes between Hawker College and shops which the same as for route 17, except that 704 doesn't travel via Erldunda Cct.

Snorzac · January 24, 2009, 03:50:34 PM

I would hardly call this network 09. These are minor changes, the major changes will come in April when the belco interchange closes.

Bus 400 · January 25, 2009, 09:27:37 PM

Today I saw at the stop of Melrose Dr after Launceston Street (northbound) that the timetable has been taken off the new orange bus stop stand & placed in the old bus stop sign.

Bus 400 · January 27, 2009, 07:09:20 PM

There was a letter in "The Canberra Times" this weekend from an Evatt Resident who thinks that ACTION should send the new 56 through Evatt as apparently Evatt residents need direct access to Gungahlin shops. Although if I lived in Evatt & needed to get to Gungahlin, I would catch the 52 to William Slim Dr & transfer into a 56 or 58 to Gungahlin

Busnerd · January 27, 2009, 09:26:57 PM

Doesn't Evatt get the 56 anyway? or the 956 at least

Buzz Killington · January 27, 2009, 09:30:04 PM

the 56 doesnt exist anymore. The 956 services evatt via William Webb and part of Owen Dixon.

Bus 400 · January 27, 2009, 11:29:10 PM

This letter was in relation to Network '09 changes.

The new 56 & 58 go via Kaleen/Giralang. While the 52 now goes through Evatt.

Barry Drive · January 29, 2009, 10:27:58 AM

Quote from: Martin on January 18, 2009, 09:16:24 PM
I've just had a look at the Route 80 timetable. The map may be wrong - the directions for 980 through DFO were originally what is shown but it was then changed to go Newcastle St (L) Iron Knob St (L) Beaconsfield St (cont) Tom Price St (R) Iron Knob St. Also the map shows the 80 route goes back along the Canberra Av service road and through Lithgow and Wiluna Streets after Symonston North when the current 8 goes straight along Canberra Av and Monaro Highway.

Once the official route listing get handed out I'll know for sure.

The official "lefts and rights" are out - the map for route 80 is correct. On the other hand, the timetable map for 704 is not correct: it is supposed to travel along Erldunda Cct. Let's see how many people that will confuse.

In other news - the routes which travel via the busway won't after 2 Feb.

Snorzac · January 29, 2009, 01:50:28 PM

Which way will the go. The most logical way would be the road the 45 uses but knowing ACTION they will do Lathalain st.

Bus 400 · January 29, 2009, 02:12:33 PM

Actually the may start to use Lathlain St (including the 45 eventually) as we need to remember that once Belconnen Interchanges are complete, all services that come from the west will go to Lathlain St first then go onto Cohen St.

Snorzac · January 29, 2009, 04:38:31 PM

Has anyone looked at the map for the changes? The pics are really out of date.
342 has accreditation, there is a .3 with 41 on the desto and 310 on a 34 also with accreditation

Buzz Killington · January 29, 2009, 04:43:47 PM

Quote from: Martin on January 29, 2009, 10:27:58 AM
In other news - the routes which travel via the busway won't after 2 Feb.

i take it they're starting work there then?

Snorzac · January 29, 2009, 04:47:44 PM

I am going to ring ACTION as there is nothing on the website and I am interested to find out where the routes will go instead.

Snorzac · January 29, 2009, 05:17:09 PM

And believe it or not the people at ACTION information have no details on this at all.

belcodriver · January 29, 2009, 09:57:48 PM

Quote from: Martin on January 29, 2009, 10:27:58 AM
On the other hand, the timetable map for 704 is not correct: it is supposed to travel along Erldunda Cct. Let's see how many people that will confuse.

On the pamphlet about the changes there is a map of all the Xpressos and it shows the 704 going along Erldunda.

Snorzac · January 31, 2009, 12:22:41 PM

704 will be interesting, is it an artic shift?

Buzz Killington · January 31, 2009, 12:44:14 PM

i'd say standard to start, until they can gauge pax numbers

Snorzac · February 02, 2009, 05:25:31 AM

In 5 minutes time the first service for the Network will leave Tuggeranong. (Route 300)

Snorzac · February 02, 2009, 05:30:03 AM

We are now officially running on Network 09! The first service for the network has departed.

Barry Drive · February 02, 2009, 11:11:09 AM

Quote from: belcodriver on January 29, 2009, 09:57:48 PMOn the pamphlet about the changes there is a map of all the Xpressos and it shows the 704 going along Erldunda.

Somehow the pamphlet got it right and the timetable got it wrong. Someone's quality checking is clearly not up to scratch.

Zac, if you look at the map/pamphlet you will see that (3)12 and (3)15 have been re-directed along Benjamin/Chan/Lathlain/Luxton. This also applies to 902 and 907. (Which means that drivers can no longer shortcut 902 on weekends.)

As far as I know, they have not started work on the Busway - the change is to get passengers used to going via Lathlain St.

Quote from: Renault PR100.3 on January 31, 2009, 12:22:41 PM
704 will be interesting, is it an artic shift?

I don't think it is - Belconnen's artics are probably already all used during peak.

Bus 400 · February 02, 2009, 10:49:57 PM

On the info board at Tuggeranong Interchange, the new 60/160 timetable has been pasted over the 61/161 timetable.

Also the new timtable at stop 2002 (Launceston St outside Tradies) has had route 314 taken of it.

Snorzac · February 03, 2009, 06:59:11 PM

They haven't reprogrammed the destos. The 704 run by 896 today just had special, why the driver didn't put 704 up as the number and the data as 110 I don't know.

Buzz Killington · February 03, 2009, 07:29:20 PM

one i saw today on a scania:

705 Belconnen Expresso
via Parkway 705

That's right, the number changes sides when it scrolls.

Also, it seems the Scania destos got reprogrammed so that the number is now on the right hand side, e.g. [Gordon 318] instead of [318 Gordon]

Bus 400 · February 03, 2009, 07:35:01 PM

Quote from: Mr Snrub on February 03, 2009, 07:29:20 PM
one i saw today on a scania:
705 Belconnen Expresso
via Parkway 705
That's right, the number changes sides when it scrolls.

I've seen similar for route 23 this week. It nows has 23 in the middle of the screen.

Quote from: Mr Snrub on February 03, 2009, 07:29:20 PM
Also, it seems the Scania destos got reprogrammed so that the number is now on the right hand side, e.g. [Gordon 318] instead of [318 Gordon]

This is so they are the same as the MAN Destos. Also the destos are improving with there finally being destos for Kambah that says:

"Tuggeranong Interchange"
"via Kambah West"

Also on 318 & 319 are both using Lanyon Marketplace as the desto instead of Gordon or Conder/Banks.

Snorzac · February 03, 2009, 07:40:25 PM

Quote from: TP 3000 on February 03, 2009, 07:35:01 PM

Also on 318 & 319 are both using Lanyon Marketplace as the desto instead of Gordon or Conder/Banks.

Been Like that since June.

Good to see that I'm not the only one that thought the Hanovers had been re-done