Future of Tuggeranong Interchange & southern intertown services

smitho · January 05, 2012, 10:11:23 PM

Apparently there was a master plan exhibition / display in Tuggeranong Hyperdome late last year highlighting future plans for Tuggeranong Town Centre.

Included in the proposals is the long discussed idea to eliminate the Tuggeranong Interchange and to extend the shopping centre northwards and to link it up with the Southern Cross Club.

A relocated interchange at Erindale would form part of the plan. Apparently the time horizon for implementing this plan is as short as two years (a bit of a long shot).

Barry Drive · January 06, 2012, 11:21:09 AM

Refer to here: http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/topics/significant_projects/planning_studies/tuggeranong_and_erindale_centres_planning_project

A quick read suggests there is no intention to "eliminate Tuggeranong Interchange". It is mentioned that the Bus Station could be relocated to Reed St (North) - between the Hyperdome and Homeworld.

Consulation on the draft plans closes on 17 February 2012.

smitho · January 06, 2012, 07:15:48 PM

Quote from: ACTbusspotter on January 06, 2012, 11:21:09 AM
Refer to here: http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/topics/significant_projects/planning_studies/tuggeranong_and_erindale_centres_planning_project

A quick read suggests there is no intention to "eliminate Tuggeranong Interchange". It is mentioned that the Bus Station could be relocated to Reed St (North) - between the Hyperdome and Homeworld.

Consulation on the draft plans closes on 17 February 2012.

Yes, this would mean that the Tuggeranong Interchange would be eliminated from its current site, allowing further expansion of the existing retail precinct.

If the Strategic Public Transport Network Plan prepared for the ACT Government in 2009 is implemented, it appears that Erindale would be the primary interchange point in Tuggeranong for Rapid intertown services from Belconnen, although some Rapid services would extend to Kippax (via Southern Cross Drive) and Tuggeranong (via Erindale Drive).

The existing 319 route south of Tuggeranong would become a Frequent Local Line offering 15 minute frequency to Lanyon group centre and Banks.

Buzz Killington · January 06, 2012, 07:34:20 PM

I recall seeing a proposal to return Pitman St (the Interchange) to its pre-1991 form of a street from Athllon through to Cowlishaw. Could easily have the bus station there, but the buses would have to layover elsewhere - perhaps the depot or maybe the Bonython end of Anketell?

Problem with the bus station being on Pitman is the lack of shop frontage, not to mention the howls of complaints from residents who will soon be moving into units that they bought in a complex that is almost literally on top of the interchange.

Bus 400 · January 07, 2012, 12:33:56 PM

Quote from: Buzz Killington on January 06, 2012, 07:34:20 PM
I recall seeing a proposal to return Pitman St (the Interchange) to its pre-1991 form of a street from Athllon through to Cowlishaw. Could easily have the bus station there, but the buses would have to layover elsewhere - perhaps the depot or maybe the Bonython end of Anketell?

Problem with the bus station being on Pitman is the lack of shop frontage, not to mention the howls of complaints from residents who will soon be moving into units that they bought in a complex that is almost literally on top of the interchange.

That topic can be found at http://actbus.net/forum/index.php?topic=3077.0

Barry Drive · January 08, 2012, 03:32:23 PM

Possibly a topic for a future web poll, but does anyone (apart from Jarret Walker) believe that diverting the Blue Rapid via Erindale, and adding 10-15 min to a journey between Tuggeranong and Woden, is a good idea.

If you do, please explain why because I can't find any benefit in doing so.

smitho · January 08, 2012, 09:13:35 PM

Yes, I wonder what the point of it all is.

To my knowledge, neither the government or its consultants who've advocated this diversion have presented any evidence or argument for the change.

Having said that, loadings on the intertown between Mawson and Tuggeranong suggest that it is the least used part of the Blue Rapid network; don't know why as it's an excellent service.

Bus 400 · January 08, 2012, 10:14:32 PM

If they are so set on a "rapid" service to Erindale, why not send one from Woden-Erindale-Calwell-Lanyon? If Ashley Drive was duplicated, bus bays could be installed with one or two stops installed to service Monash/Gowrie & Isabella Plains/Richardson. If this imaginary patronage still want a rapid between Erindale & Tuggeranong. Then send one of the Blue Rapids Woden-Tuggeranong-Erindale.

So your bus network could be:

312 No Change
313 No Change
314 Woden-Tuggeranong-Erindale
315 Woden-Erindale-Tuggeranong
318 Woden-Tuggeranong-Bonython-Gordon-Lanyon
319 Woden-Erindale-Calwell-Lanyon Loop-Lanyon MP

Of course if no demand is there, then cut the 314/315 back to the current way.

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Buzz Killington · January 09, 2012, 06:11:52 PM

Quote from: smitho on January 08, 2012, 09:13:35 PM
Having said that, loadings on the intertown between Mawson and Tuggeranong suggest that it is the least used part of the Blue Rapid network; don't know why as it's an excellent service.

Could be that there's all of four stops between Mawson and Tuggeranong Interchange - two within a stone's throw of each other at Farrer, one at Kambah and one that was in line of sight from the interchange before the apartments went up!

belcodriver · January 09, 2012, 06:39:32 PM

Quote from: smitho on January 08, 2012, 09:13:35 PM
Having said that, loadings on the intertown between Mawson and Tuggeranong suggest that it is the least used part of the Blue Rapid network; don't know why as it's an excellent service.

Most parts of Tuggeranong are serviced by 60-series routes from Woden and the (1)11 so no need to go on to Tuggy Interchange unless Tuggy town centre is your destination or you need to continue on to Banks, Conder, Gordon or Bonython which IIRC are the only Tuggy services not serviced from Woden.

With the town centre on the far edge of Tuggeranong from Woden in some ways it would be better to have the interchange at Erindale but I don't think it makes sense for all 300s to go via Erinadale.

Buzz Killington · January 09, 2012, 06:46:42 PM

Quote from: belcodriver on January 09, 2012, 06:39:32 PM
Most parts of Tuggeranong are serviced by 60-series routes from Woden and the (1)11 so no need to go on to Tuggy Interchange unless Tuggy town centre is your destination or you need to continue on to Banks, Conder, Gordon or Bonython which IIRC are the only Tuggy services not serviced from Woden.

With the town centre on the far edge of Tuggeranong from Woden in some ways it would be better to have the interchange at Erindale but I don't think it makes sense for all 300s to go via Erinadale.

Bonython has the 66 although it's a lengthy trip from Woden.

I rarely have a need to use Tuggeranong Interchange - that said, if during the off peak you're on an intertown to Woden but miss your connecting 60 series by minutes, it's sometimes quicker to stay on the Intertown to Tuggeranong and get your 60 series from there.

belcodriver · January 11, 2012, 12:02:23 PM

*suburbs not services

Bus 400 · September 17, 2012, 05:55:59 PM

The Tuggeranong Master Plan has been released & can be found at http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/31390/20120913_Tuggeranong_Master_Plan_-_low_res-_web_version.pdf.
It does mention a plan to relocate the bus station to Reed Street North, the location appears to be near the Woolworth's loading dock. So unless it moves, I can't see this happening (with all that OH&S stuff).